The OEM vs. AM Cylinder Debate
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Tornado warnings in my area as well...
Praying for you and your neighbors. Stay safe
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Same here bro. Wife is working late, right in the path of one.. Im worried ..
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Got a buddy who was given a 6400 w/a toasted piston.
He picked up a nwp jug-slug for like 50 buks. I opened lower transfers and exhaust, put in a thin paper gasket that i made,and opened up muff.
Noodled 5 tanks of fuel thru it be4 i gave it back.
Aint no worked over288,, but close.
Impressed da firetruck out of me!
He pooped his pants when he ran it.
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@Mattyo I haven't found Husky OEM parts to be nearly as ridiculous as Stihl OEM, although I have dealt very little with Stihls in my experience. $40 for an intake boot is nuts, I believe most Husky boots run about $20. More than AM, sure...but not as crazy as some. And while OEM Husky P&C kits are not as cheap as some, they are competitive with the best AM alternatives so for me it's OEM. Being that every saw I have overhauled to date have generally been units that I can't afford to experiment with AM kits on due to being "customer saws" or rebuilds of my own I wanted to be confident I would only have to do once, I have stuck with OEM since Husky has lowered the prices on alot of the kits. I do have a blown 55 that I think I'm going to hunt up the cheapest kit I can find and do a little experimenting with though.
To be fair I should add that overhauls only requiring a new piston have gotten Meteors and those have performed flawlessly.
@Mattyo I haven't found Husky OEM parts to be nearly as ridiculous as Stihl OEM, although I have dealt very little with Stihls in my experience. $40 for an intake boot is nuts, I believe most Husky boots run about $20. More than AM, sure...but not as crazy as some. And while OEM Husky P&C kits are not as cheap as some, they are competitive with the best AM alternatives so for me it's OEM. Being that every saw I have overhauled to date have generally been units that I can't afford to experiment with AM kits on due to being "customer saws" or rebuilds of my own I wanted to be confident I would only have to do once, I have stuck with OEM since Husky has lowered the prices on alot of the kits. I do have a blown 55 that I think I'm going to hunt up the cheapest kit I can find and do a little experimenting with though.
To be fair I should add that overhauls only requiring a new piston have gotten Meteors and those have performed flawlessly.
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Totally agree on the need for full disclosure to customers. Some people have a "let the buyer beware" attitude which i think is dishonest to the max. Pricing should also be appropreate. Some guys/dealers will charge OEM retail for a $20 cylinder kit.
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We come the full circle with part of this thread .....1... if... AM parts are "no different" to OEM we wouldn't need to make a disclosure to the customer on there "possible lower " quality.... 2 ..OR... is it that they are just more cost effective to use and its the "Cheeper buying " cost that the customer should benefit from. I to would not pass OEM as AM if i was asked or offered to use OEM only....sometimes AM is what you can get though and other than second hand thats the best that can be done.
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Most definitely on number 2 and possibly on number 1.
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Yep..full circle. Remember my parents trying to define an awkward subject as "number 1" & "number 2"....see the connection?
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BTW, the cross performance looks like its really an NPW built cylinder. Its really a good option as AM parts go. And if the trend started by them takes off with other AM suppliers, that will makes things start looking in the saw world similar to all the other motorsports out there...
(Ok built with the same technic...as NPW )
(Ok built with the same technic...as NPW )
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Hope all is well.....that tends to remind ALL of us whats really important.
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NPW ? enlighten me if you would pleaseBTW, the cross performance looks like its really an NPW built cylinder. Its really a good option as AM parts go. And if the trend started by them takes off with other AM suppliers, that will makes things start looking in the saw world similar to all the other motorsports out there...
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And it's going to stay that way for while too.
Husky moved parts for the Northeast back to the Troy warehouse. They had a meeting/lunch up there on Tues to show us the operation. Had some corporate guys there and I had a nice conversation with the guy who is in charge of parts sales for the US. Asked him about the price drop last year, strategy, how it's working for them. Bottom line is they will be competitive on parts and they want dealers buying parts from them. They aren't just thinking P&C kits like we're discussing here, but all parts for everything they sell. (30,000 parts in the system). Parts aren't as exciting as shiny new stuff, but it's serious big business.
SO much has changed in just the last couple of years. Two years ago, OEM kits were way up there in price. Distributors were selling Asian kits to dealers in the $60-$80 range. Others were selling to end users in the $120-$150 range. That pricing structure has been completely blown up. Husky prices pretty much make both the distribution suppliers and the "premium" AM retailers kind of obsolete. There are exceptions of course, where it's more convenient for guys to buy those kits. And for Stihl guys, their OEM kits are still at ivory tower pricing. And then from the lower end of the price ladder, the ability to buy kits online/direct opens up an even bigger gap between those kits and the premium stuff.
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