The "I work with dumb people" thread

[FergusonTO35]

The door has a push sticker on it, and I still pull.

 

[Dub11]

The door has a push sticker on it, and I still pull.

Drink more coffee.....

 

[Dub11]

They struck again!

Not my machine but yeah that is a nut taped down to keep the oil heater on.

It's only pumping 90 gallons of 485 degree oil at 60 psi.

 

[Wilhelm]

Coworkers handling a CNC mill 6+ months, even years, mass production:

1) Setting up a workpiece, machine runs into one of two clamps after drilling the first hole. Coworker doesn't know what to do for at least a 1/2 hour, decides to ask me. I take a look at the setup legend and the workpiece setup on the machine, turn around and ask "Is this clamp on "II" (mounting hole row)?". He takes a look and quietly answers "No!". To be clear, he was adamant that the workpiece setup was accurate.
The clamp was mounted two rows over, on "KK", which is in our case 1" into the spindles/tools way.
This happens all the time, these coworkers don't even get the idea of double checking the work setup they did when the machines crash into something, instead they start altering perfectly fine processing programs.

2) Coworker sets the mill up for a workpiece and gets a "Z- Limit Switch Error". "Z" is the spindle/tool axis, "-" is the spindle/tool plunge feed (+ is retract), limit switch error indicates the machine having reached its fixed machine parameter limit. Said coworker tinkers around, doesn't know how to solve the issue and starts altering the workpiece setup lifting the workpiece higher.
Simple solution is to either pull the tool out of the tool holder if possible, or simply utilize a longer tool holder (ER32/70 is short, ER32/160 is long).
In most cases the tool just needs to be pulled out a little.
A couple former coworkers managed to enter their machines service parameters, messed around in those and rendered the mill inoperable (backed up machine parameters needed to be loaded, easy fix but still undesirable). Needless to say those former coworkers didn't last.

3) Not knowing how to open (load), close (unload), copy, paste a processing program. All but one mill feature an "Explorer" style program management with tree like folders containing files. Tabs clearly stating open, close, save, copy, paste are plastered on the screen.
These individuals present themselves as the smartest smartphone users, yet they fail miserably using the mills Explorer style program managers.

4) Guy gets to process sample workpieces, meaning he uses and alters/corrects a new processing program pulled either from an USB stick or the companies network. At the end of the shift he shuts down the mill not saving the processing program. The next days morning shift has to redo everything he did to finish processing the sample batch.
Guy comes to work gets asked why he shut down the mill without saving the program, he answers "It said "OK" and "Cancel", pushing cancel didn't shut down the machine so I pushed OK.".
This is an example from one of our Windows based mills, when shutting them down while there is unsaved work the machine will warn You "You have unsaved work, are You certain You want to shut down?!" with OK and Cancel tabs. You are supposed to push cancel, open the program manager and save Your work!

5) A couple coworkers "collect" their spit/luggers in their mouth while waiting that their machine finishes its processing cycle, then open the machines safety doors and spit into the machine for every other worker manning the machine to enjoy.
The ground surrounding the mills is tarmac covered in iron dust and other dirt, including pigeon poo - there is no harm done spitting on the ground rather than into the machine.

These may not be "dumb" examples, but You can't handle a CNC mill and not learn the kinks it involves doing so!
Also, young generations have no work ethics.
Most my coworkers are aged under 40 years old, many under 30.

Lengthy post, thank Tou for reading!
Cheers

 

[redline4]

 

[JugHead27]

Coworkers handling a CNC mill 6+ months, even years, mass production:

1) Setting up a workpiece, machine runs into one of two clamps after drilling the first hole. Coworker doesn't know what to do for at least a 1/2 hour, decides to ask me. I take a look at the setup legend and the workpiece setup on the machine, turn around and ask "Is this clamp on "II" (mounting hole row)?". He takes a look and quietly answers "No!". To be clear, he was adamant that the workpiece setup was accurate.
The clamp was mounted two rows over, on "KK", which is in our case 1" into the spindles/tools way.
This happens all the time, these coworkers don't even get the idea of double checking the work setup they did when the machines crash into something, instead they start altering perfectly fine processing programs.

2) Coworker sets the mill up for a workpiece and gets a "Z- Limit Switch Error". "Z" is the spindle/tool axis, "-" is the spindle/tool plunge feed (+ is retract), limit switch error indicates the machine having reached its fixed machine parameter limit. Said coworker tinkers around, doesn't know how to solve the issue and starts altering the workpiece setup lifting the workpiece higher.
Simple solution is to either pull the tool out of the tool holder if possible, or simply utilize a longer tool holder (ER32/70 is short, ER32/160 is long).
In most cases the tool just needs to be pulled out a little.
A couple former coworkers managed to enter their machines service parameters, messed around in those and rendered the mill inoperable (backed up machine parameters needed to be loaded, easy fix but still undesirable). Needless to say those former coworkers didn't last.

3) Not knowing how to open (load), close (unload), copy, paste a processing program. All but one mill feature an "Explorer" style program management with tree like folders containing files. Tabs clearly stating open, close, save, copy, paste are plastered on the screen.
These individuals present themselves as the smartest smartphone users, yet they fail miserably using the mills Explorer style program managers.

4) Guy gets to process sample workpieces, meaning he uses and alters/corrects a new processing program pulled either from an USB stick or the companies network. At the end of the shift he shuts down the mill not saving the processing program. The next days morning shift has to redo everything he did to finish processing the sample batch.
Guy comes to work gets asked why he shut down the mill without saving the program, he answers "It said "OK" and "Cancel", pushing cancel didn't shut down the machine so I pushed OK.".
This is an example from one of our Windows based mills, when shutting them down while there is unsaved work the machine will warn You "You have unsaved work, are You certain You want to shut down?!" with OK and Cancel tabs. You are supposed to push cancel, open the program manager and save Your work!

5) A couple coworkers "collect" their spit/luggers in their mouth while waiting that their machine finishes its processing cycle, then open the machines safety doors and spit into the machine for every other worker manning the machine to enjoy.
The ground surrounding the mills is tarmac covered in iron dust and other dirt, including pigeon poo - there is no harm done spitting on the ground rather than into the machine.

These may not be "dumb" examples, but You can't handle a CNC mill and not learn the kinks it involves doing so!
Also, young generations have no work ethics.
Most my coworkers are aged under 40 years old, many under 30.

Lengthy post, thank Tou for reading!
Cheers

Sounds like you got some green button pushers and that’s it. Most of the work in machining is the setup

 

[Wilhelm]

Sounds like you got some green button pushers and that’s it. Most of the work in machining is the setup

You hit the nail on its head!

"Green button pusher" , love that term.

Agree, proper setup is most time consuming but also most important for repetitive quality processing.
Poor workpiece setup will result in poor end product quality.

Thank You for reading my post!

 

[FergusonTO35]

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Not sure what they are trying to communicate with the Re part?

 

[redline4]

Not sure what they are trying to communicate with the Re part?

Exactly.
Nobody knows.
It was supposed to say no tires...

 

[Dub11]

Sounds like you got some green button pushers and that’s it. Most of the work in machining is the setup

We got one of them, we call him chinnuts.

 

[Dub11]

So boss co.es up to me the other day and is wanting to get some people rounded up to we can work out something to boost company morale.

I guess Im apart of the "Ministry of Happiness".

 

[redline4]

So boss co.es up to me the other day and is wanting to get some people rounded up to we can work out something to boost company morale.

I guess Im apart of the "Ministry of Happiness".

Call it the Department of hookers and blow.
It can either go over really well, or get shot down immediately.

 

[Steve]

Call it the Department of hookers and blow.
It can either go over really well, or get shot down immediately.

We have a guy here doing blow on his lunch break in the parking lot. The fine women he converses with may be defined as escorts though...

 

[JugHead27]

So boss co.es up to me the other day and is wanting to get some people rounded up to we can work out something to boost company morale.

I guess Im apart of the "Ministry of Happiness".

Everyone gets a raise, problem solved.

 

[Dub11]

Call it the Department of hookers and blow.
It can either go over really well, or get shot down immediately.

Winning!

We have a guy here doing blow on his lunch break in the parking lot. The fine women he converses with may be defined as escorts though...

Escorts sounds classy.

Everyone gets a raise, problem solved.

For some of us it's too late.

Well at least for me it is.

 

[FergusonTO35]

We have a guy here doing blow on his lunch break in the parking lot. The fine women he converses with may be defined as escorts though...

New car dealership, amirite?

 

[Kiwioilboiler]

So boss co.es up to me the other day and is wanting to get some people rounded up to we can work out something to boost company morale.

I guess Im apart of the "Ministry of Happiness".

Is getting rid of him one of the solutions? Coz I see a problem if so.

 

[Steve]

New car dealership, amirite?

Naw, I'm not good enough to work at a prestige dealership like Ed . I'm a small town aftermarket repair shop hack!

 

[FergusonTO35]

I'm surprised that anybody in an aftermarket shop could afford the good nose candy. I worked at one of the biggest new car dealerships in the state for several years, and that place was like real life Miami Vice. Lots of money, drugs, and hot women. Everybody had some kind of hustle going on. The service department had fake warranty work down to an art form.

 

[Steve]

I'm surprised that anybody in an aftermarket shop could afford the good nose candy. I worked at one of the biggest new car dealerships in the state for several years, and that place was like real life Miami Vice. Lots of money, drugs, and hot women. Everybody had some kind of hustle going on. The service department had fake warranty work down to an art form.

Let's just say he spends ALL his money on it and it shows. Im sure he is doing some dealing too.