Stihl MS 440 Magnum for Steve

[Maintenance Chief]

The hogh jet is a little bit fat in that video.

 

[NateSaw]

Well, better safe than sorry! I'd rather replace spark plugs then pistons and cylinders.

 

[redline4]

This one has no decomp. He wants one too. I'm wondering if the 460 jig will bolt on to the 440 case. Before I dig in, I want to rattle around some options.

Get an Elasto-start handle and carry on.
I have that on my 044 and a regular old rope and handle on my 046. Vast difference in starting.

 

[drf256]

Get an Elasto-start handle and carry on.
I have that on my 044 and a regular old rope and handle on my 046. Vast difference in starting.

Surprising. The 046 has the smart coil with timing retard on start. I’ve only seen the dummy coils on 044.

The 046 with an elasto and a decomp is a 2 finger starter.

 

[drf256]

This one has no decomp. He wants one too. I'm wondering if the 460 jig will bolt on to the 440 case. Before I dig in, I want to rattle around some options.

All things Hybrid

I know they’re impractical, slow to build and prone to failure but I love hybrid saws. So I wanted to create a place where we could compile info and get dorky on mutant saws. Please post up links to builds! Here’s some links to the more common builds...

opeforum.com

 

[redline4]

Surprising. The 046 has the smart coil with timing retard on start. I’ve only seen the dummy coils on 044.

The 046 with an elasto and a decomp is a 2 finger starter.

The elasto on the 460, if it had one, was long gone by the time I acquired it.
I just haven't gotten around to putting one one. With it and the decomp, yeah, it will pull easier than the 044.

 

[maulhead]

The elasto on the 460, if it had one, was long gone by the time I acquired it.
I just haven't gotten around to putting one one. With it and the decomp, yeah, it will pull easier than the 044.

8 screws you could swap the recoil from the 044 to the 460, and see if you like the 460 with a elasto starter more gooder.

Just a thought......

 

[NateSaw]

8 screws you could swap the recoil from the 044 to the 460, and see if you like the 460 with a elasto starter more gooder.

Just a thought......

More gooder

 

[NateSaw]

It's a 12mm straight fun non-decomp... But, that hardly matters......

 

[NateSaw]

.... Because we're going 440/460 hybrid with this one. Thank to @Canadian farm boy . I ran some he built at @Duane(Pa) gtg on the hill and I was SOLD!

 

[NateSaw]

@Glock37 is such a wealth of info... He's given me a parts list with numbers, and will be powder coating the mag parts. This will have the kolben oem non d chamber jug and slug. Brand new. It's getting new oem bearings, seals, boot, hoses, av mounts. New am covers. Wcs dogs, East coast profile. I'll again do the max-Flo foam with a 461 air horn and carb studs.... This one's gonna take a while.

 

[NateSaw]

@Canadian farm boy , I'll buy you a coffee. Bend my ear.

 

[Canadian farm boy]

hardest part of a hybrid build is fitting the 046 cylinder to the 044 cases. I use the 044 gasket as a template and use a sharpie to mark the bolt holes and edges of the cylinder so I know how much and where to file/grind material.
You may need to grind a little off the outside of the FW side transfer tunnel to clear the FW.
You’ll also need to grind away a couple of the lower cooling fins.

 

[Canadian farm boy]

I actually have a 044 hybrid build to do very soon. I’ll post pics of what has to be done to the jug for you to reference.

 

[NateSaw]

I meant bend my ear about the headache . Yesterday morning I was dragging ass until I got that first cup in me.

 

[Canadian farm boy]

Lots of pics of a 044 hybrid build in this thread.

044 hybrid build CFB style

Here we go fellas. Courtesty of @Glock37 we have newly powdered cases, recoil housing, muffler and 3/4 wrap. Mike does excellent powder work. If anyone ever needs parts powdercoated Mike is the guy you need to talk to. I modified the muffler prior to sending it for powder. I'll show...

opeforum.com

 

[NateSaw]

@Glock37 mentioned skimming the back of the flywheel on the lathe. I remember you telling me how you did the gasket match. And the chain file working well. The transfers on this new cylinder are art. They have a pretty hard slant towards the intake. And they are the flatest I've seen yet, other than Doc's in my 026.

 

[Canadian farm boy]

I meant bend my ear about the headache . Yesterday morning I was dragging ass until I got that first cup in me.

I’m good as long as I get a caffeine fix at least once every 8-10 hours. Thanks again for the coffee hook up last weekend.

 

[NateSaw]

Friday I'm going to order the lucky dog handpiece set. It's a must.

 

[Canadian farm boy]

@Glock37 mentioned skimming the back of the flywheel on the lathe. I remember you telling me how you did the gasket match. And the chain file working well. The transfers on this new cylinder are art. They have a pretty hard slant towards the intake. And they are the flatest I've seen yet, other than Doc's in my 026.

You can cut some material off the FW or the transfer tunnel. Whichever is easiest for you. I prefer taking it off the FW