Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[Duane(Pa)]

Old logging camp trick: wraps few turns of worn thin rawhide boot lace around bearing to keep grit out.

 

[Dolkitafreak]

Is that Archer chain?

.058 husky x-cut. It grinds and files nicely. My only gripe about this chain is that I feel like I waste 25% of the tooth converting it due to the amount of hook. I’ll pull my arm off and check out that bearing, thanks guys.

 

[RI Chevy]

Wow. Thank you. That x-cut hook is tough to replicate.

 

[Bjorn]

Wow. Thank you. That x-cut hook is tough to replicate.

Hallo. Thats why I only use EXL chains or LGX.

 

[RI Chevy]

Yes Bjorn. I bought a few loops to try. I try lots of different chains just because. Lol
Oregon EXL is good stuff for sure.

 

[srcarr52]

How does it hold an edge? There's a local shop that sells reels of Archer chain for a decent price.

It holds up decently. The material might seem soft when filing but it holds up decent and it’s got a good amount of chrome on the top.

 

[RI Chevy]

My Archer chain stretched considerably when new. Then it settles on. Just be aware.

 

[old guy]

I've been using 6 or 8 archer chains this year, I can not find any thing to complain about except I can't use the Husky roller file gauge on it cuz the top corner of the drive link holds the gauge too high, but I grind chain mostly now so...

 

[Bjorn]

Look how the Girls is working.

 

[srcarr52]

My Archer chain stretched considerably when new. Then it settles on. Just be aware.

Same here, retention after the first couple of cuts, then again about 1/2-3/4 tank. After that it's pretty stable. I don't think it's any worse than Carlton chain.

 

[JimBear]

Thanks for sharing that. Shouldn’t the intro title say Archer - China instead of Australia??
I was interested to see them Rockwell testing something ?? I have been curious as to the Rc hardness between different chain manufacturers. I guess I will have to take some & test them. Unless one of you other gents has already done it. Connecting links & drive link is about all a guy can test without some sort of fixture for stability for holding a tooth for top plate & side plate testing.

 

[RI Chevy]

Cool video. But it looks like child labor. I wasn't impressed with the heat treat if that's what the firey thing was. The video looked pretty sophisticated, but I highly doubt it.
And previously mentioned, but Archer Australia looked like China to me.
I'd still use it although it's not my 1st or 2nd preference.

 

[Dolkitafreak]

After disassembling, greasing, and reinstalling my arm, no more slop! I have been loving this 451.

 

[Frank bierce]

After disassembling, greasing, and reinstalling my arm, no more slop! I have been loving this 451.View attachment 253840

Great profile!! That’s gonna cut!

 

[Dolkitafreak]

Great profile!! That’s gonna cut!

That’s going to be a play chain, I don’t think it will hold an edge for chit.

 

[jacob j.]

That’s going to be a play chain, I don’t think it will hold an edge for chit.

It looks like it is just slightly side-beaked, which is fine for playing around. It won't hold an edge as long like you say, but will initially be a hair faster in the wood.

When I was commercial thinning, I would run a slight side beak because I was decreasing the back-slope of the top plate and running the rakers just a hair shallower,
which made for a very fast cutting chain in young softwoods.

 

[Dolkitafreak]

It looks like it is just slightly side-beaked, which is fine for playing around. It won't hold an edge as long like you say, but will initially be a hair faster in the wood.

When I was commercial thinning, I would run a slight side beak because I was decreasing the back-slope of the top plate and running the rakers just a hair shallower,
which made for a very fast cutting chain in young softwoods.

I still debate the slight beak being faster. I know some do it intentionally on race chains, I prefer the perfect corner. That chain is going to be in a group of chains I test, I have 6 different chains, all quite a bit different to run.

 

[jacob j.]

I still debate the slight beak being faster. I know some do it intentionally on race chains, I prefer the perfect corner. That chain is going to be in a group of chains I test, I have 6 different chains, all quite a bit different to run.

It depends on the wood you're cutting. In western softwoods, especially young trees or those with less tight growth rings, the side beak will gain you an edge. In harder or denser woods, not so much.

 

[Homemade]

I moved the chain guide more forward in my simington 450. Now the straight line from the working corner doesn’t line up with the inside corner. I am thinking because I have a more acute or flatter grind angle on the top plate, it won’t intersect the inner corner.
My question is, is this an issue? does it seem too aggressive? I haven’t got a chance to cut with it yet.


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[Duane(Pa)]

I moved the chain guide more forward in my simington 450. Now the straight line from the working corner doesn’t line up with the inside corner. I am thinking because I have a more acute or flatter grind angle on the top plate, it won’t intersect the inner corner.
My question is, is this an issue? does it seem too aggressive? I haven’t got a chance to cut with it yet.


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According to everything I have read, that is of no concern.