Saw builds

[paragonbuilder]

I've seen intakes from 76 to 82 transfers from 117 to 125 and exhaust from 94 to 98
And I've heard of some at 99

The performance of these saws even ported is dependent on how good the cylinder is timed stock. The older cylinders are definitely better as a whole,makes it impossible to make a new saw run like a old one,the smaller cases of the older saws help but it's mainly the cylinders.
I don't know of any other saw that varies like these,maybe that's why I like them.

Like you said, it's hard to imagine castings being that different. But they are... So why? And how?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[jmssaws]

Like you said, it's hard to imagine castings being that different. But they are... So why? And how?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't know

 

[jmssaws]

I don't know,the saw I'm using is around 200 or 210 I'm guessing I've never checked it. I think it will vary from saw to saw, flywheels and coils will vary from saw to saw.

I was off a little bit.
I just checked it and at 90 degrees it's 175lb,it feels like more. Amazing how little compression has to do with how a saw runs. It helps smaller saws but evidently not big ones.

I haven't built one with over 200lbs this year,unless dall's is but I don't think so.
I'll check it

 

[jmssaws]

I believe this 66 is hurt,030 from the chamber should be more than that.

It should be around 200

 

[CR500]

I was off a little bit.
I just checked it and at 90 degrees it's 175lb,it feels like more. Amazing how little compression has to do with how a saw runs. It helps smaller saws but evidently not big ones.

I haven't built one with over 200lbs this year,unless dall's is but I don't think so.
I'll check it

About 160 here....my elevation does make the 180 drop a bit.

With that said it is a strong 160lbs, pulls over harder than the 441 did with 190.

She runs strong though!!!'

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[CR500]

About 160 here....my elevation does make the 180 drop a bit.

With that said it is a strong 160lbs, pulls over harder than the 441 did with 190.

She runs strong though!!!'

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

Saw was warm when I checked

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[jmssaws]

Saw was warm when I checked

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

Warm makes a difference.
They don't need compression to be strong. Jack's 064 is very strong at 150lb

 

[CR500]

Warm makes a difference.
They don't need compression to be strong. Jack's 064 is very strong at 150lb

I kind of think there is different feels of compression, like said the 661 even at it's compression reading, it is a strong one to pull over.

Makes people not want to always use my saw....which aint the worst thing.

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[jmssaws]

Larger the bore the worse it gets.

 

[mdavlee]

I believe this 66 is hurt,030 from the chamber should be more than that.

It should be around 200

Chamber could have been a little bigger to start with.

 

[jmssaws]

Chamber could have been a little bigger to start with.

I just checked dall's saw and it's 185lbs

 

[jmssaws]

I just checked dall's saw and it's 185lbs

It's also new and there's no telling how
many hours is one mine so 10lb less is about right.

 

[dall]

that is still 35 more than it was when you got it

 

[riverrat2]

Top left saw in the pic is the one I'll be tearing down and rebuilding from the ground up. And that's the only husky stuff in the lot is that 1/2 of a saw. So I'm gonna need to acquire a few parts for the top half. But I'll get there

LOL!!!! You been takin Pics 0f my pile of projects?????

 

[huskihl]

LOL!!!! You been takin Pics 0f my pile of projects?????

Lol. These sat in my uncle's tack shop for 10 years. He's a horse logger. Dirty, but the 044, 066, and 394 cleaned up pretty good.

 

[riverrat2]

Cool beans,, I Just don't have enough hrs in the day working a regular job, to get to the ones I want to work on, The last saw I built (MS 460) ran third @ T Landrums 460 buildoff GTG,,, I think that was 6 yrs ago!!!!!

Gotta do a carby and fuel line on my BIL's 028 Super next month when I am on Vacation in CT/NY Up in Lake Sacandaga

 

[jmssaws]

020 is slower than the other 2 so far,I'm also getting closer to a big not so that might be some of it but the saw doesn't feel right at 020.

 

[malk315]

Or hook up with eric and Marcello and compare.
But really you know if it strong just running it. You've built this saw before...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My 262 took a digger and will be down until fixed -- otherwise I would be happy to run it! -- I'll post the story and pics soon... I'm a bit upset right now and have put it aside.
It's a work saw and no matter how many trees you fell chit can happen... Still annoyed to talk about it But I'll share with you guys! Having that saw get hurt was like having one of your kids get hurt...

It's going to need a top cover and possibly right case half unless the piece that broke off could be welded.
It could possibly get away w/o the welded piece, but it's 1/2 of the square cutout that holds the throttle "plunger" where the trigger rod pushes through -- may not stay in place w/o all of the metal but mechanically still works w/o the metal.

Need to remove a broken top cover bolt -- no big deal.
Broken nipple on fuel inlet for carb -- no prob
will need a black plastic air "stack" that connects carb to filter too. (forgive me I don't know the names of all of the parts).

I think I got off pretty lucky -- could have been a bent crank and the like -- it really just took a wallop on the head from the tree.
Damn poplar -- they are weeds in my book... Still PO'd and will post the story soon. Happened last weekend.

I'm too much of a chicken chit to change the case half on the 262 -- don't want that saw to be my first teardown of that depth. Will get a project saw (craigslist) to do my first rebuild.

Dan if I get the parts could I bring my parts and injured saw down your way for the surgery? It could be an opportunity for you to check out Randy's cylinder work etc. (plenty of pics on here, but would be cool maybe for you to see first hand). Maybe whoever is around could stop by too (Matty? RIChevy? Marcello?) I would need help or would need to send the saw to one of you guys w/ way more experience for repair. I would be so bummed if I introduced and air leak or the like being a green as I am on working on saws.... learning opportunity for at least some of the work.

Meantime I got finally the two stihls in hand I mentioned -- plan to work w/ the oiler on the 044 (I have thread and that is much simpler work) will play w/ that some tomorrow, it may be just a cleaning is all that's needed. The other is an 028 wood boss that my just need the kill switch fixed. Those are stock and much simpler problems to look at.

I haven't been keeping up on here as much as I'd like to, but finally did some reading tonight.

More to come on the 262 (pics etc.).

 

[riverrat2]

Lol. These sat in my uncle's tack shop for 10 years. He's a horse logger. Dirty, but the 044, 066, and 394 cleaned up pretty good.

may have some parts for your 394 project when u get ready

 

[exSW]

My 262 took a digger and will be down until fixed -- otherwise I would be happy to run it! -- I'll post the story and pics soon... I'm a bit upset right now and have put it aside.
It's a work saw and no matter how many trees you fell chit can happen... Still annoyed to talk about it But I'll share with you guys! Having that saw get hurt was like having one of your kids get hurt...

It's going to need a top cover and possibly right case half unless the piece that broke off could be welded.
It could possibly get away w/o the welded piece, but it's 1/2 of the square cutout that holds the throttle "plunger" where the trigger rod pushes through -- may not stay in place w/o all of the metal but mechanically still works w/o the metal.

Need to remove a broken top cover bolt -- no big deal.
Broken nipple on fuel inlet for carb -- no prob
will need a black plastic air "stack" that connects carb to filter too. (forgive me I don't know the names of all of the parts).

I think I got off pretty lucky -- could have been a bent crank and the like -- it really just took a wallop on the head from the tree.
Damn poplar -- they are weeds in my book... Still PO'd and will post the story soon. Happened last weekend.

I'm too much of a chicken chit to change the case half on the 262 -- don't want that saw to be my first teardown of that depth. Will get a project saw (craigslist) to do my first rebuild.

Dan if I get the parts could I bring my parts and injured saw down your way for the surgery? It could be an opportunity for you to check out Randy's cylinder work etc. (plenty of pics on here, but would be cool maybe for you to see first hand). Maybe whoever is around could stop by too (Matty? RIChevy? Marcello?) I would need help or would need to send the saw to one of you guys w/ way more experience for repair. I would be so bummed if I introduced and air leak or the like being a green as I am on working on saws.... learning opportunity for at least some of the work.

Meantime I got finally the two stihls in hand I mentioned -- plan to work w/ the oiler on the 044 (I have thread and that is much simpler work) will play w/ that some tomorrow, it may be just a cleaning is all that's needed. The other is an 028 wood boss that my just need the kill switch fixed. Those are stock and much simpler problems to look at.

I haven't been keeping up on here as much as I'd like to, but finally did some reading tonight.

More to come on the 262 (pics etc.).

262 XP is maybe the perfect saw to do your first teardown and rebuild. They are dirt simple. Almost intuitive.