MS462 vs MS500i

[sawmikaze]

When you get that figured out, work on why we can't buy heated Stihls here.

The guys I buy from said something about importing and money...I can't remember what it was.

 

[MG porting]

You're getting hosed.

It's 30 bucks more to upgrade to an R model for me.

Well yeah it's the county I live in triple tax on everything then triple tax on the tax itself.

 

[MustangMike]

I did not want a R model … but … I got a lightweight bar!

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

The 500 outcuts a stock 660, and feels like a 362. Never ran a 462.

I politely disagree with every statement here.

 

[andyshine77]

I politely disagree with every statement here.

The last few years the 660 was weak, a 7900 stomped the one I had and the 500i is just slightly ahead of the 7900. The 500i is larger and heavier than the 362, but I will say not by all that much. The 462 is the size and weight of the 362.

 

[huskyboy]

The 462 is the size and weight of the 362.

I agree with that, but not the weight. People are mislead by the pho empty weight. The 462 holds more fluids than a 60cc saw... so fully fueled with a bar mounted it weighs very similar to a 044/440 or 372xp non-xtorq. I do like how compact the physical size of it is though. Makes it feel nimble for a 70cc saw.

 

[MustangMike]

I didn't think the fuel capacity of a 462 was much different than a 440 (if it is, please tell), so I don't see how fully fueled they are the same weight ... unless ... as Edith would say ... it is using the "heavy oil"!!!

Ditto the 572 ... doesn't that hold at least as much in fluids???

 

[ElevatorGuy]

I agree with that, but not the weight. People are mislead by the pho empty weight. The 462 holds more fluids than a 60cc saw... so fully fueled with a bar mounted it weighs very similar to a 044/440 or 372xp non-xtorq. I do like how compact the physical size of it is though. Makes it feel nimble for a 70cc saw.

I haven’t weighed it but my 462 sure feels the same as my buddies 271. I’m running the 20” sugi vs he’s using the farm boss 20” but regardless I’d rather run mine than his.

 

[huskyboy]

I haven’t weighed it but my 462 sure feels the same as my buddies 271. I’m running the 20” sugi vs he’s using the farm boss 20” but regardless I’d rather run mine than his.

A pound in bar weight can easily make up for a pound in saw weight. Lightweight bars make a difference.

 

[CLEARCUT]

A pound in bar weight can easily make up for a pound in saw weight. Lightweight bars make a difference.

Bar weight makes a huge difference IMO. Especially on a 32-36. It’s not just the physical weight difference, but the leverage of where the weight is being taken off. As a faller, you know what I mean. Just as important as powerhead weight.

 

[so il logger]

I politely disagree with every statement here.

A good running 066 is different than a stock lethargic 660. I ran stock lethargic 660's for several years and will say with no hesitation all 6 of the 500i we have will outshine them. Soon to be 7 but this one has a tad more powah than the others...

So 500i has more grunt than 462, weight is similar, price is close enough. I just view the 462 as a firewood saw

 

[so il logger]

I don't want to see "edited" post's quoting my last one. Let's just see it

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

I don't want to see "edited" post's quoting my last one. Let's just see it

I have dyslexia and often miss-spell words which I will then go back and edit to correct or re -punctuate sentences. Almost every single post I have made has been edited and corrected.

We don’t have to agree, I’m simply telling you that I politely disagree with what you have written.

 

[andyshine77]

A good running 066 is different than a stock lethargic 660. I ran stock lethargic 660's for several years and will say with no hesitation all 6 of the 500i we have will outshine them. Soon to be 7 but this one has a tad more powah than the others...

So 500i has more grunt than 462, weight is similar, price is close enough. I just view the 462 as a firewood saw

500i definitely has a wider power band, but I surely wouldn't call the 462 anything less than a everyday pro saw. And I would say a firewood saw that gets used six days a week would be used harder than a saw that's just used to drop trees, but yeah most here that cut firewood don't use their saws all that often, so there's that. lol

Yes I know, it's just a couple meaningless cuts, but the 462 is very capable, and has some things I definitely like over the 500i.[emoji111]

 

[ElevatorGuy]

A pound in bar weight can easily make up for a pound in saw weight. Lightweight bars make a difference.

We know that but he doesn’t. He isn’t all into it like most here. He would buy one if they were stocked locally, He isn’t the type to order a sugi or similar bar online. Then there is the price, He’s cheap haha.

 

[foeke]

This is all very useful when trunkcookies are in high demand.

But when you want to cut wood, it's more important which length bar can it oil and not bog down.

And then take the most ergonomical one (in which weight is a very important factor).
The cutting time is only a small fraction of the process.

I used the Dolkita 7910 a lot. And once in a while borrowed a 390xp. But never wanted to own one (to heavy for my slender body). Dolkita is killed, and got a great offer on a 372xpw, but now I also want that 390xp (or whatever saw can run 32" bar occasionally).
The 7910 could run every size bar I need. The 372xp doesn't.

Running a 24 bar, I would not care which of the two had the highest cookierate.
Only which is the most comfortable in a Forrest (which would be a draw).

I rarely cut my trees that are already laying horizontally on a trestle.
Both those stihls have great specs.
The field experience should guide in deciding which is best for whom.

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[Wonkydonkey]

I didn't think the fuel capacity of a 462 was much different than a 440 (if it is, please tell), so I don't see how fully fueled they are the same weight ... unless ... as Edith would say ... it is using the "heavy oil"!!!

Ditto the 572 ... doesn't that hold at least as much in fluids???

you are correct, the 462 is slightly heavier than the 440 and the 462 holds slightly less fuel. So essentially they are the same fully fuelled. Although the 462 is slightly more fuel efficient etc

 

[huskyboy]

500i definitely has a wider power band, but I surely wouldn't call the 462 anything less than a everyday pro saw. And I would say a firewood saw that gets used six days a week would be used harder than a saw that's just used to drop trees, but yeah most here that cut firewood don't use their saws all that often, so there's that. lol

Yes I know, it's just a couple meaningless cuts, but the 462 is very capable, and has some things I definitely like over the 500i.

I’d buy the 462, save the 300.00 and do a muffler mod. 300.00 buys a few spare bars, chains, axe and wedges anyway.

 

[Absolution]

If you are just planning on running shorter bars then run the 462. (Which is really the 441 replacement as the 500 is more to the 461)

The 500i is a saw that pulls longer bars well but the general consensus is that they are pretty well on par with each other running the shorter ones.

Edit: Also the 660 argument. The 500i doesn't outrun my 660. My 660 can pull the 44" without a care and I feel like the max I would want running skip on the 500i is 36".

But the 500i weighs 17lbs w/o bar. Compared to the 20lbs of the 660.



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[Skeans1]

If you are just planning on running shorter bars then run the 462. (Which is really the 441 replacement as the 500 is more to the 461)

The 500i is a saw that pulls longer bars well but the general consensus is that they are pretty well on par with each other running the shorter ones.

Edit: Also the 660 argument. The 500i doesn't outrun my 660. My 660 can pull the 44" without a care and I feel like the max I would want running skip on the 500i is 36".

But the 500i weighs 17lbs w/o bar. Compared to the 20lbs of the 660.

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Edit 2: why did we revive a year old thread

Semi skip on a 36 yes full skip isn’t needed on a 36 on the 500. What the 500 reminds me more of is a 064 will it handle as long of a bar power wise yes oiling no. The 66 series is more on bat with a 395 but lacking big time in the grunt and oil departments for a good true comparison.


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