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  1. 94BULLITT

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    As soon as I heard about the MS500i, I wanted one. I have been watching some videos of it, and now I am not so sure. The 462 looks like a really good performer, and with a muffler mod some are showing it out cutting the 500i. So for those that have ran the 500 and 462 what do you prefer an why? Whatever saw I go with, it will have a 20'' bar and be used for cutting firewood. When is the 500 supposed to be on the shelf? Any ideas on price?
     
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    Totally different saws designed for different purposes. 24” and under go with a 462. 24” and up go with the 500i
     
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    Even with an 8 pin sprocket? My two main saws are now are a 660 and a 441.
     
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    For your purposes I would say 462 no question. It will pull a 20 very well stock and will likely cost you at least 500 less than a 500i.
     
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    Not everybody has the same priorities.
    They both weigh about the same, the 500i probably uses a tad less fuel, and can pull longer bars.
    The 500i is a bit more expensive.
    Both are way more then needed for a 20" bar. Even in hardwood.
    When you put a turbo on the 500i it might outcut a 880. I would compare stock for stock.
    Most important part of the question is "I want the 500i"
    My priority would be to find the lightest saw for the job.
    You might not care and want a 500i anyway, replace/sell the 660. And let the 441 handle the 20" bar.

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    The 500 outcuts a stock 660, and feels like a 362. Never ran a 462.
     
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    Thanks for the food for thought. I really like the size and weight of the 462. It may come down the the price. I can't see paying a lot more for a 500i. The 462 looks like a really nice firewood saw. I already sold 2 saws. I have 3 more up for sale. After I sell those I am going to sell some more. I have too many saws and it seems like I run the same 3 or 4 for most things, so why have the others. If someone wanted to pay something stupid for the 441, I'd sell it.
     
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    The 500i definitely needs more fuel then a 462
     
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    You are right, I am wrong. I thought the direct injection would make the thing more fuel efficient.
    Like direct injection improved fuel consumption in cars.


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    In theory it should but that 7cc size difference is the sticking point.
     
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    I’ve not ran a 500i but I have a 462. As a matter of fact I have a 241, 261, 362, 462, 461, 661, and Hooskie 395. The 241, 462, and 661 aren’t ported. The rest are MMWS saws. I have contemplated selling the MMWS 362 to fund porting the 462 and maybe the 661.

    I think for your purposes, the 462 would work best. Still not sold in the FI model, YET. I do like Mtronic saws though, and a lot of people don’t.
     
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    Saw a review on the 500i and they said it would be more for the guys that like technology because of the cost. But they said it was narrower for limbing trees better, but between the two he would go with 462. But he still liked it
     
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    I just looked at the Stihl UK site. A 661 is $1428 ,a 500i is $1320, and a 462 is $1200. So it looks like 500 will be priced between the 462 and 661. I about have my Dad talked into a 462. So I could get a 500i and it would be like having them both.

    I like the mtronic saws too. In general the modern saws are so much better than the saws of even 10 years ago.
     
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    For a 20" bar saw I would say the 462 hands down for the following reasons: (some have already been expressed above).

    The 500 has more torque than the 462, but eats more fuel and is not faster with a 20" bar.

    The 462 is a tad lighter, and has clean air filter tech that the 500 lacks.

    I would not consider a 500 over the 462 (and I have a 462 and have run 500s at GTGs) unless I planned to run a 28" or longer bar.

    Mine has a 20" light bar on it and I love it, good for limbing and bucking.

    (FYI, the 500 has injection, but not direct injection … there is a big difference in the efficiencies provided).
     
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    I thought direct injection went in to the combustion chamber and not the intake .
     
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    With 2 stroke saws the mix needs to travel through bottom end first, unlike a 4 stroke car. So I am guessing direct injection for that would be a injector in the crankcase?
     
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    Direct injection doesn’t go through the crank case. Skip ahead to 1:40 in this video for explanation. I know it’s not a saw but BRP is one of the leaders in direct injection 2 strokes. I doubt we’ll ever see true direct injection in saws, just not enough room for an oil tank. We’ll see all battery power first I think.
     
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    That is a more logical pricing structure than here. 661 with heat 28 inch es light and rs chain costs the same as a 462 with heat and a 20 inch es light and rs chain. A 500i 20 inch es light and rs chain costs at least 30% more.
     
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    Hopefully it comes down, but that’s not really Stihls style.
     
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