MS 241 is toast

[foragefarmer]

What other saws do you use for your business?

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The 241 covers everything except for when I need to take some larger trees down to clear an old fence row. And getting a dozer or track hoe in isn't justified. Then it is one of the 044's. Neither one is pretty.

Probably the biggest off normal thing with the saw is excessive idle when building board fence but that isn't going to change.

Or catching old fence wire and getting it bound up in the clutch cover, that happens fairly regularly.

 

[Lone Wolf]

The 241 covers everything except for when I need to take some larger trees down to clear an old fence row. And getting a dozer or track hoe in isn't justified. Then it is one of the 044's. Neither one is pretty.

Probably the biggest off normal thing with the saw is excessive idle when building board fence but that isn't going to change.

Or catching old fence wire and getting it bound up in the clutch cover, that happens fairly regularly.

Maybe the time idling had part in its demise?

 

[Khntr85]

I don't want this to become an oil thread but it is an honest question. It got Belray H1R when that was popular and then when Belray fell out of favor Maxima K2 since.

Don't want to start the oil debate either, but did you ever run Stihl gray bottle...I was talking to a tree guy the other day and he said he uses it In any 2-stroke they use...they switched to gray bottle 4-5 years ago and he said he has noticed less issues!?!?!?

 

[pro94lt]

This might tip it over to a oil thread but if he was running 50:1 and it had 40000 hours on it, this thread would be a case closed "the 50:1 killed it"

 

[Lone Wolf]

This might tip it over to a oil thread but if he was running 50:1 and it had 40000 hours on it, this thread would be a case closed "the 50:1 killed it"

How could he have the time to put that many hours on it? It would take about 20 years.

 

[foragefarmer]

Maybe the time idling had part in its demise?

Yeah and/or the jarring from an old piece of fence wire hanging up in the chain/clutch.

The thing was ridden hard and put up wet.

It has had numerous wear items replaced, tune ups, carb replaced and rings.

 

[sawmikaze]

How could he have the time to put that many hours on it? It would take about 20 years.

I think he was just alluding to the fact that people like to blame 50:1 for failures and just picked a number to make his point.

 

[foragefarmer]

I think he was just alluding to the fact that people like to blame 50:1 for failures and just picked a number to make his point.

So far in this thread 50 and 32 to 1, which is the problem with oil threads. They go around and around in circles and never end up anywhere.

At the end of the day there is a reason why I only get a 90 day warranty from Stihl. Unless they have changed the warranty terms.

 

[sawmikaze]

So far in this thread 50 and 32 to 1, which is the problem with oil threads. They go around and around in circles and never end up anywhere.

At the end of the day there is a reason why I only get a 90 day warranty from Stihl. Unless they have changed the warranty terms.

My 241s run sluggish at 32:1.

I figure if 50:1 killed as many saws as some people say these ope makers would be in big trouble..idk..i just run 40 because guys smarter than me say its a good thing.

 

[Brush Ape]

I have been thinking of changing colors. Any thoughts?

Hold your breath for about six or eight minutes.

 

[foragefarmer]

Hold your breath for about six or eight minutes.

Brushy

 

[bryanr2]

I prefer 42.7:1 myself.

 

[Cigmaker]

I'm stupid but my saws come with a handy sticker that says 40:1

 

[Simondo]

What all did they update ?

Sorry for not posting back sooner. I seem to have made the classic error of trusting what my memory told me was the case !
I have looked without success to find "Actual " facts on any changes to the 241 . I likely as not have got the ongoing upgrades and changes with the 261 and 362 mixed in with Stihl's running and development improvements ,assuming they have taken some (if needed ) into the current 241 over the last 3 1/2 yrs. Maybe they have ...maybe not..but im not a Stihl agent so do not have the IPL's to compare. Apologies for the mistake and hope someone with direct Stihl information could say what the score is.
I still think the 241 is the right replacement choice for our OP .

 

[sawmikaze]

I too have rebuilt a lot of ms250, know them front, back, and side to side....it just kills me people down them....just like @sawmikaze said they are great with just a muff mod, (I don't even mess with timing on them), but I would like to try it, (feel free to give me your recipe @sawmikaze if ya want to LOL)....

I have seen these ms250 that have been ran and ran with hardly any maintenance and they take it like a champ....I actually have one that my dad bought me new 6-7 years ago...that saw has made me more money than my others combined I would say.....it's the saw I throw in the truck if I have a quick or dirty job and the 18" is big enough to get it done!!!!

Also to me these saws are very simple to work on....the only thing that is even remotely difficult is threading the rubber intake boot threw the handle housing, and if you use string it's actually not that bad!!!!

No doubt , this is primarily an enthusiast forum so if its not a pro saw its automatically junk ... i know a guy who runs a service that buys nothing but 250s for the ground guys simply because they are cheap and they work just fine..when they get dropped/abused/smashed he isnt out big bucks.

 

[sawmikaze]

Sorry for not posting back sooner. I seem to have made the classic error of trusting what my memory told me was the case !
I have looked without success to find "Actual " facts on any changes to the 241 . I likely as not have got the ongoing upgrades and changes with the 261 and 362 mixed in with Stihl's running and development improvements ,assuming they have taken some (if needed ) into the current 241 over the last 3 1/2 yrs. Maybe they have ...maybe not..but im not a Stihl agent so do not have the IPL's to compare. Apologies for the mistake and hope someone with direct Stihl information could say what the score is.
I still think the 241 is the right replacement choice for our OP .

I think i heard/read they put lighter fastners in it..other than that nothing i know of..

Ya id buy another 241 too if the money dont matta.

 

[dall]

I wouldn't mind having a 241

 

[sawmikaze]

I wouldn't mind having a 241

They can kill the need for a 50cc saw no problem..people *s-word bricks when they run mine.

 

[Roadfxr]

They can kill the need for a 50cc saw no problem..people *s-word bricks when they run mine.

That's what I'm afraid of. If I get a 241 my 261 will just sit there and I really like my 261.


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[foragefarmer]

My 241s run sluggish at 32:1.

I figure if 50:1 killed as many saws as some people say these ope makers would be in big trouble..idk..i just run 40 because guys smarter than me say its a good thing.

I think 50:1 is probably fine for nominal operations, but when something goes wrong the richer mixes help guard against damage. I think most recently that was the case with my 10 mm 044 when the pto crank seal went bad. Or a recent 026 purchase where the the flywheel crank seal had been "repaired" with RTV red by the previous owner. Nice of him to neglect to mention it. It held for a month or so.

Purely anecdotal your mileage may vary.