Matt's first 064

[Spladle160]

Just got back in town. I really think the case gasket it fine but... I figured I have to step up and be a big boy and do a bottom end some day, why not get a few tools and make sure the build is solid. So I jumped on huztl and took advantage of the fathers day sale, grabbed the 2 splitters, oils seal puller and a 660... oops. May as well do 2 right?
Here's where I'm at on parts ordered so far
Crank bearings, OEM clutch side, Nachi ZZ fly side. will I have to pull a seal on the nachis?
Meteor piston kit.
OEM Piston Pin bearing.
Used OEM caps and lines just in case. The fuel cap gasket is shot
K15-WJ kit for the walbro WJ6A M7 carb.
Elastostart
cheap knock off brake handle.

Here's what I'm not sure about.

What gasket and seals should I grab? OEM Aftermarket? Brand?
Can an OEM brake handle be found reasonable?
AV seems like it may be a little soft. Worth replacing? OEM Aftermarket?

Thanks for the help and the kind words. I'm hoping to get a few minutes tomorrow to finish cleaning up the cylinder and post a few pics. Also decided I'm going to try to get my 8yo to help me on this to teach him how engines work.

 

[dall]

Just got back in town. I really think the case gasket it fine but... I figured I have to step up and be a big boy and do a bottom end some day, why not get a few tools and make sure the build is solid. So I jumped on huztl and took advantage of the fathers day sale, grabbed the 2 splitters, oils seal puller and a 660... oops. May as well do 2 right?
Here's where I'm at on parts ordered so far
Crank bearings, OEM clutch side, Nachi ZZ fly side. will I have to pull a seal on the nachis?
Meteor piston kit.
OEM Piston Pin bearing.
Used OEM caps and lines just in case. The fuel cap gasket is shot
K15-WJ kit for the walbro WJ6A M7 carb.
Elastostart
cheap knock off brake handle.

Here's what I'm not sure about.

What gasket and seals should I grab? OEM Aftermarket? Brand?
Can an OEM brake handle be found reasonable?
AV seems like it may be a little soft. Worth replacing? OEM Aftermarket?

Thanks for the help and the kind words. I'm hoping to get a few minutes tomorrow to finish cleaning up the cylinder and post a few pics. Also decided I'm going to try to get my 8yo to help me on this to teach him how engines work.

oem gasket set and hoses
there is no seal on the nachi bearings
aftermarket av mounts are ok

 

[PA Dan]

OEM gasket set and it comes with the seals. Check your local dealer but this auction may be cheaper.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/273669939287

 

[066 redeye]

OEM gasket set and it comes with the seals. Check your local dealer but this auction may be cheaper.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/273669939287

Getting all my OEM gear from Bill here down under.
Top bloke and a lot cheaper than local dealers.
Just got the 064/066 gasket set myself last week.
Any of you other US of A getting gear off him?

 

[Spladle160]

Alright, Seal and gasket set coming from Bill down under. After Market rubber set and a new clutch cover.
Thanks for the heads up on the bearings @dall I had seen the ausie oem seal and gasket kit I'm just kinda tight and get a real pinch shelling out that kind of money for gaskets and seals. Good to know it's a good known seller. Thanks @066 redeye

 

[huskihl]

Alright, Seal and gasket set coming from Bill down under. After Market rubber set and a new clutch cover.
Thanks for the heads up on the bearings @dall I had seen the ausie oem seal and gasket kit I'm just kinda tight and get a real pinch shelling out that kind of money for gaskets and seals. Good to know it's a good known seller. Thanks @066 redeye

The one mentioned above was for 064/early 066. If they're gaskets for a 660, you'll want the later ones

 

[dall]

The one mentioned above was for 064/early 066. If they're gaskets for a 660, you'll want the later ones

dan showed the right set the case gasket has a small area at front bottom corner and the 660 used a bigger more rounded style at the bottom corner

 

[Spladle160]

I'm fighting myself on whether to go the maxflow route and drop the $100 plus bucks on a filter base and filter.

 

[Lightning Performance]

I'm fighting myself on whether to go the maxflow route and drop the $100 plus bucks on a filter base and filter.

Are you doing commercial work?

 

[Spladle160]

No, this is purely for giggles for me. If I hold onto the saw I might use it a few hours a year.

 

[dall]

No, this is purely for giggles for me. If I hold onto the saw I might use it a few hours a year.

i wouldnt worry about the max flow setup unless you plan on keeping it or using it alot

 

[huskihl]

dan showed the right set the case gasket has a small area at front bottom corner and the 660 used a bigger more rounded style at the bottom corner

I thought he was looking for a Chihl 660 gasket set

 

[dall]

I thought he was looking for a Chihl 660 gasket set

the gasket set for the chinese one would come with the parts like we did a few years ago

 

[Spladle160]

Yeah, the 660 is just an add on to a huztl order. It'll be all chinese with a cross top end and the same OEM and Nachi bearings.

 

[huskihl]

the gasket set for the chinese one would come with the parts like we did a few years ago

Yep I was just making sure he knew the difference between the 064/early 66 gaskets and the later 66/ 660 gaskets. Wasn't sure if they were for his 064 or a Chinese 660

 

[Spladle160]

I think I know the difference but I'll know for sure when they all show up. I certainly appreciate the heads up.

 

[Spladle160]

No gasket set to compare yet but I did finish cleaning the transfer out of the cylinder. I'm pretty pleased with it. I've seen better.... but not by me.

 

[Spladle160]

So I tore down the saw and started cleaning parts. Everything went pretty well with the exception of 2 things.
1. I should have known better than to put the name plate badge on the recoil in the dishwasher
2. the oil pump to bar oiler hole is impossible to remove. I finally got it off the pump after about half an hour a set of channel locks and a set of needle nose. The thing is so hard I can barely squeeze it with the needle nose. How does it come off of the other side? is it a male hose barb out of the case?

 

[Spladle160]

Oh and @dall was right, the case has a leak. At least in the oil reservoir. I was washing it out with the mix I emptied out of the fuel tank and it was making tiny bubble from the gasket.

 

[dall]

So I tore down the saw and started cleaning parts. Everything went pretty well with the exception of 2 things.
1. I should have known better than to put the name plate badge on the recoil in the dishwasher
2. the oil pump to bar oiler hole is impossible to remove. I finally got it off the pump after about half an hour a set of channel locks and a set of needle nose. The thing is so hard I can barely squeeze it with the needle nose. How does it come off of the other side? is it a male hose barb out of the case?

was the brass ferrule in the oil hose at the case side ?
new oem hose kit comes with ll new pieces i usually make sure i have all the paint out of where the hose goes and spray lube in the hole before trying to put the hose back in
on the recoil badge the only option i see lately for new old style badge is finding a nos recoil from a different model