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I want to run only well seasoned wood, and hopefully a lot less than what I have had to use in the past.
Is yours a Central Boiler?
Yes mine is a central boiler E3200 with extra water reserve. Old water heaters for reserve. Love the wifi access. You can watch it to know when to feed the boiler. Plus you can see how it has been running. Helps with learning to run it. Also use a mix of soft and hard wood. Soft wood starts faster and hard wood keeps the coals going.

PS. 0.52 inches of rain yesterday.

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Found out yesterday evening that one of my neighbors a half mile away called the well guy with the same problem that I had. No water and low amp draw on the pump.
We are planning to drop the pump 80' lower, which will put us at 560'.
And even at that depth, you'll still be no where near an aquafer with your elevation.
Fortunately in your area groundwater pockets are robust, and re-charge quickly.
This has just been an extremely dry year.. I'm guessing some of the neighborhood springs aren't flowing much either. In our area, if we go below 600', we start getting below sea level, which depending on the year, can be using off the top of an aquafer. The recharge rate of that is about 3" per year. this year, it's going backwards.
 

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The odd thing about ground water is things like this:

A neighbor to the east has a large spring in their back yard that flows into a large pond.
It's still flowing like always..

neighbor to the north has a 500 foot well with a 6" case that is having issues..

Between all of us are 2 irrigation wells at about 800' deep and 10" casings. Running the big wells is messing with the deeper wells, but zero effect on the shallower ones, which tells me the pockets are somewhat independent of each other..

The next well we put down will be within 400 yards of the Deer Creek flood plain and only 40' higher than the creek bed itself. I'm wondering if I'd be better off to go larger case and shallower depth? Or smaller case and deeper?
I really want to utilize the creek basin water, not the aquafer.. Just don't know if it can flow laterally at 200 GPM or better.
 

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Well, we got some rain overnight & it’s still raining lightly. From yesterday morning to this morning I had 1.39” hopefully it’s widespread & a common amount.
25 minutes ago had 1 3/4" Inna guage. Glad for tree line between my place and the road. Don't hate wear soaked clothes if they're left in side.was out doing stuff before oatmeal and coffee. Guessers say rain at least till 2 pm creek was still up from what seaps from full dirt hills. Haven't looked or heard a big change yet
 

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My well at the stamp is only 67 feet deep but I think it’s partially spring fed. Last time we were down there, about 6 weeks ago, I could still hear water dripping in.
My pump sits at about 62ish feet deep and last I checked the top of the water column was about 30 feet from the top.
 

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My well at the stamp is only 67 feet deep but I think it’s partially spring fed. Last time we were down there, about 6 weeks ago, I could still hear water dripping in.
My pump sits at about 62ish feet deep and last I checked the top of the water column was about 30 feet from the top.
Have you tested it’s flow yet?
Think it could sustain say 10 GPM over the course of a couple hours?
 

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We have water!
Pump is at 560' which is 20' lower than its original depth when we bought the place.

Thank you all for your thoughts on the Central Boiler. I will see where the money ends up when I get the bill for the well.

560'?
Its prolly Chinese water!:biggrin:


I think mine is like 25'.
 

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Have you tested it’s flow yet?
Think it could sustain say 10 GPM over the course of a couple hours?
Don’t know. How does one check its flow rate? My pressure tank holds 30 gallons and I thought I’d see if I could pump the well dry. Theoretically I figured about 3 or 4 tankfuls in a row should have pulled it down and start sucking air. So I filled the tank and immediately emptied it. Did this 6 times in a row, it was still pumping water. Is that good?
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Don’t know. How does one check its flow rate? My pressure tank holds 30 gallons and I thought I’d see if I could pump the well dry. Theoretically I figured about 3 or 4 tankfuls in a row should have pulled it down and start sucking air. So I filled the tank and immediately emptied it. Did this 6 times in a row, it was still pumping water. Is that good?
:)
Just let it run.
 

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Open the faucet and just let it run. You can put a bucket under it and use a timer and record how long it takes to fill the bucket and then dump it and time it again. When you first turn it in, then your flow will usually be higher until it drains your pressure tank. After the tank has emptied, then you will be able to time the flow of the pump itself.
 

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To measure pump output, get a platform scale (like at the feed store) and a 55 gallon drum.

Water weighs (IIRC !) 8.33 #/gal.

Time how long it takes to fill and subtract tare weight from net weight. Divide by 8.33.

Did that at work and found our hoped for 250gal/min well would only produce a steady 7.5 gal/min. [emoji90]

Our well was drilled down into loess soil. A very fine clay that gives up water very slowly.
 

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My main concern was the recharge rate of my well. The casing is 6 inches in diameter which gives approximately 1.5 gallons per foot. The water level holds pretty steady at about 30 feet down from the top of the well opening. The well measured 67 feet with a plumbbob and string. The pump is about 4-5 feet from the bottom which gives me about 35ish above the pump. At 35 feet of water column that equates to approximately 52 gallons of water for immediate use. In the space of about 20 minutes, maybe 30, I pumped 150 gallons of water. And never sucked any air.
When we go down to the stamp, as part of starting things up, I turn on the well and fill the tank. Then I use that tank to flush the filters and lines going to the big camper where we stay. Right now we don’t have a flush toilet, we use a composting one so pretty much all we use is just the kitchen sink which one tank of water will last most of the weekend. But it seems to have a good recharge rate, which makes me happy.
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A well drilled in the historic meander zone of the Missouri river will indeed produce 200+ gpm.

St.Joseph changed from drawing water from the river to sand point wells ten miles north of town.

This was caused by low water level resulting from a large ice jam one winter. Pumps lost prime.

Being without tap water for a week was no fun. [emoji90]
 
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