how about a Oklahoma,AR,MO,KS,TX,+IA GTG thread?

[Dub11]

For those of you that have used aftermarket top ends, what brands have you had success with over the long haul? I'm looking at replacing the top end on my 200t before long. OEM is about $200. Meteor is about $130 and claim to be OEM quality...

What's wrong with the oem head?

I'd rather clean up a oem jug and slap a Meteor in it than think about using AM stuff.

 

[moparnut88]

What's wrong with the oem head?

I'd rather clean up a oem jug and slap a Meteor in it than think about using AM stuff.

That would be my preference as well. I’ve had good luck with meteor pistons and caber rings. But like the oem jugs.


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[KS Plainsman]

I share the frustration. Cant blame the farmer though. It's a maintenance free cash crop for them.

Yeah, it is, but I can still blame the farmer. The ones leasing their ground to the city outfits are the same people who preach "keep things local and support our own community". So, at least out here, there's a bunch of folks who talk out both sides of their mouths and I don't care much for those types of people. They have no problem "selling out" when the money goes in their pockets. Rant off!

 

[BrettL]

Good points. This saw has never been abused so the cylinder should be good.

I see where you're coming from KS Plainsman, I cant stand a hypocrite.

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Yeah, it is, but I can still blame the farmer. The ones leasing their ground to the city outfits are the same people who preach "keep things local and support our own community". So, at least out here, there's a bunch of folks who talk out both sides of their mouths and I don't care much for those types of people. They have no problem "selling out" when the money goes in their pockets. Rant off!

It's everywhere the double talk is a disease.

 

[BrettL]

Good morning y'all. Supposed to have 30 and 40 mph winds with possible 50mph gusts. I think I'll do some saw maintenance today.

 

[Hedgerow]

Yeah, it is, but I can still blame the farmer. The ones leasing their ground to the city outfits are the same people who preach "keep things local and support our own community". So, at least out here, there's a bunch of folks who talk out both sides of their mouths and I don't care much for those types of people. They have no problem "selling out" when the money goes in their pockets. Rant off!

Most things, for me, are crystal clear.. But on this subject, I’m seeing gray...
If I owned 1000 acres and farmed/ranched it, wasn’t a hunter, and a fella came to me and said I’ll pay you $1000 per month for hunting rights, I’d probably do it. Or, I’d realize there was a value there, and capitalize on it somehow some other way.

Being a hunter myself, I’d escort “Chad from big buck Inc.” off my place so fast it would make your head swim..
Then go back in the house and figure out a way to do both.. like sell leases to the trophy hunters during bow and regular season, then open it up to local aquatinted guys that want to harvest does.

I always revert back to: “If you own it, do as you see fit” cuz if I can tell you what to do with your stuff, you can tell me what to do with mine, and that *s-word ain’t gonna wash..

 

[Cat 525]

Good morning y'all. Supposed to have 30 and 40 mph winds with possible 50mph gusts. I think I'll do some saw maintenance today.

Good morning! That wind just keeps at it. Is a good day to stay out of it!

 

[Workshop]

Morning everybody.

 

[JimBear]

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

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It's going to get crazier unless the 7 dwarfs tell the Queen to go fly a kite.

 

[Hedgerow]

It's going to get crazier unless the 7 dwarfs tell the Queen to go fly a kite.

Refuse to conform!!!

 

[KS Plainsman]

Most things, for me, are crystal clear.. But on this subject, I’m seeing gray...
If I owned 1000 acres and farmed/ranched it, wasn’t a hunter, and a fella came to me and said I’ll pay you $1000 per month for hunting rights, I’d probably do it. Or, I’d realize there was a value there, and capitalize on it somehow some other way.

Being a hunter myself, I’d escort “Chad from big buck Inc.” off my place so fast it would make your head swim..
Then go back in the house and figure out a way to do both.. like sell leases to the trophy hunters during bow and regular season, then open it up to local aquatinted guys that want to harvest does.

I always revert back to: “If you own it, do as you see fit” cuz if I can tell you what to do with your stuff, you can tell me what to do with mine, and that *s-word ain’t gonna wash..

I get what you're saying and I do agree. It's their property and their right to do with as they please. I kinda follow your line of thought and several others out here share them as well. If I was a landowner, even if I didn't hunt, I'd come up with a way to make money, but do so locally, cause it's to a point, where most of the local guys would have no problem paying a local landowner for the privilege to hunt their ground, but I suppose it's easier to deal with 1 person or outfit and get a payment and be done with it.

Back in the day, when my Grandpa was alive, he had some of the best hunting in the county and let several come hunt his property. His payment was, by the end of the season, a full freezer of meat, to supplement his beef supply. Then again, he came from a different time, lived through the depression and knew what was truly valuable and it wasn't the almighty dollar. So I was raised with a different mindset than most people my age have today.

As mentioned I really wouldn't care, if they weren't hypocrite's about it.

 

[Hedgerow]

I get what you're saying and I do agree. It's their property and their right to do with as they please. I kinda follow your line of thought and several others out here share them as well. If I was a landowner, even if I didn't hunt, I'd come up with a way to make money, but do so locally, cause it's to a point, where most of the local guys would have no problem paying a local landowner for the privilege to hunt their ground, but I suppose it's easier to deal with 1 person or outfit and get a payment and be done with it.

Back in the day, when my Grandpa was alive, he had some of the best hunting in the county and let several come hunt his property. His payment was, by the end of the season, a full freezer of meat, to supplement his beef supply. Then again, he came from a different time, lived through the depression and knew what was truly valuable and it wasn't the almighty dollar. So I was raised with a different mindset than most people my age have today.

As mentioned I really wouldn't care, if they weren't hypocrite's about it.

What are they saying that is not adding up? Buy local?
Maybe I missed something..

 

[Hedgerow]

Or are you thinking the local guys didn't get a crack at the leases? Or were the leases too expensive for locals to swing?
Cuz that could be a real issue..
Some guys are willing to spend stupid money to shoot "Managed deer".

 

[Hinerman]

Or are you thinking the local guys didn't get a crack at the leases? Or were the leases too expensive for locals to swing?
Cuz that could be a real issue..
Some guys are willing to spend stupid money to shoot "Managed deer".

STUPID money. I can tell you I do not hunt because 1) I don't have the land, 2) I don't know anybody who has land that is not leased or they keep the hunting to themselves, 3) I will not pay crazy money to lease, I can buy a whole cow and have it processed and still be money ahead for what it costs to lease, 4) The little public land around here is a war zone during rifle season.

 

[KS Plainsman]

What are they saying that is not adding up? Buy local?
Maybe I missed something..

Or are you thinking the local guys didn't get a crack at the leases? Or were the leases too expensive for locals to swing?
Cuz that could be a real issue..
Some guys are willing to spend stupid money to shoot "Managed deer".

No, your second comment is in line with the issue. I apologize. I'm honestly extremely introverted and have a heck of a time putting thoughts into words on a computer at times. I do much better in personal conversations.

Anyway, the people who are selling leases to large "Sporting Clubs" in cities out east, are the same ones who tell everyone around here to "buy local", as far as buying groceries local, not going to Walmart, using our local lumberyard, instead of going an hour to Home Depot and using our farm store, instead of Orscheln's an hour away and so on, so forth. So basically, they are telling people to support our mom and pop shops, instead of large corporations, but when they are the one's getting paid (via massive sums for lease by city "Sporting Clubs") that's Ok.

So no, no locals got a shot at anything, because alot of it was done and not mentioned much (because they knew they were being hypocrites), until 90% of the good hunting areas were already leased. They kept things pretty quiet till the damage was done, so to speak. It's truly amazing how fast it happened. A couple months, maybe. Knowing now what the outfits pay, I don't think any one person around here would've wanted to pay that amount and it's actually gone up now that people know what city folks are willing to pay.

Now their justification, with the outfitter that moved into town, is that they are supporting a local guy. Even though he literally ended up here 4 years ago and picked here only because it was halfway between all the leased land they hunt. Still though, he only has people from out of town as customers. I don't know of anyone locally, who pays him to take them hunting. So even though he's "local" it still screws alot of us. I will always have a place to hunt, so I don't even really have a dog in the fight, but I do realize there's an issue and hypocrisy is the root cause of it and realize it puts alot of locals in a spot, if they want to hunt.

To my point of they could make money locally, I mean that now, alot of people are so hard up for hunting ground, a landowner could say "Alright local guys, $200 dollar hunting leases and we'll fit in as many as we can". I'm not sure they'd make what the city places are paying, but they'd for sure do alright and help out the locals. Especially considering how fast the turn around would be on some of these places. I know several guys who wouldn't mind paying 2 or even 300 bucks, if they could fill all their tags. That's still some cheap meat. A guy could literally show up and bag 2 or 3 deer in a couple hours. Then get the next guy in tomorrow and another in a couple days and so on so forth (of course it is still hunting and sometimes things don't always work out as planned), but there's a *s-wordload of deer out here. That's sorta how I'd try and do it if I was a landowner.

Maybe that makes more sense, hopefully. Let me know if it doesn't.

 

[KS Plainsman]

STUPID money. I can tell you I do not hunt because 1) I don't have the land, 2) I don't know anybody who has land that is not leased or they keep the hunting to themselves, 3) I will not pay crazy money to lease, I can buy a whole cow and have it processed and still be money ahead for what it costs to lease, 4) The little public land around here is a war zone during rifle season.

And that is the issue right there. That's what's happening to guys out here too. You better have a lifelong friend who is a landowner, or your family better own land, if you want any good hunting out here. We do have some walk in hunting areas and there's been a push to get more to do that out here, but it's usually only good for pheasant hunting. The good deer hunting is all taken up.

 

[Hedgerow]

No, your second comment is in line with the issue. I apologize. I'm honestly extremely introverted and have a heck of a time putting thoughts into words on a computer at times. I do much better in personal conversations.

Anyway, the people who are selling leases to large "Sporting Clubs" in cities out east, are the same ones who tell everyone around here to "buy local", as far as buying groceries local, not going to Walmart, using our local lumberyard, instead of going an hour to Home Depot and using our farm store, instead of Orscheln's an hour away and so on, so forth. So basically, they are telling people to support our mom and pop shops, instead of large corporations, but when they are the one's getting paid (via massive sums for lease by city "Sporting Clubs") that's Ok.

So no, no locals got a shot at anything, because alot of it was done and not mentioned much (because they knew they were being hypocrites), until 90% of the good hunting areas were already leased. They kept things pretty quiet till the damage was done, so to speak. It's truly amazing how fast it happened. A couple months, maybe. Knowing now what the outfits pay, I don't think any one person around here would've wanted to pay that amount and it's actually gone up now that people know what city folks are willing to pay.

Now their justification, with the outfitter that moved into town, is that they are supporting a local guy. Even though he literally ended up here 4 years ago and picked here only because it was halfway between all the leased land they hunt. Still though, he only has people from out of town as customers. I don't know of anyone locally, who pays him to take them hunting. So even though he's "local" it still screws alot of us. I will always have a place to hunt, so I don't even really have a dog in the fight, but I do realize there's an issue and hypocrisy is the root cause of it and realize it puts alot of locals in a spot, if they want to hunt.

To my point of they could make money locally, I mean that now, alot of people are so hard up for hunting ground, a landowner could say "Alright local guys, $200 dollar hunting leases and we'll fit in as many as we can". I'm not sure they'd make what the city places are paying, but they'd for sure do alright and help out the locals. Especially considering how fast the turn around would be on some of these places. I know several guys who wouldn't mind paying 2 or even 300 bucks, if they could fill all their tags. That's still some cheap meat. A guy could literally show up and bag 2 or 3 deer in a couple hours. Then get the next guy in tomorrow and another in a couple days and so on so forth (of course it is still hunting and sometimes things don't always work out as planned), but there's a *s-wordload of deer out here. That's sorta how I'd try and do it if I was a landowner.

Maybe that makes more sense, hopefully. Let me know if it doesn't.

Makes perfect sense.
Only up side is that there are people not from your area, willing to pay an outrageous sum of money to shoot your deer.
A lot more than the deer are worth.
Big question is "What percentage of that money is being spent locally?"
And how good are the locals at poaching?
Questions to ponder..

 

[KS Plainsman]

Makes perfect sense.
Only up side is that there are people not from your area, willing to pay an outrageous sum of money to shoot your deer.
A lot more than the deer are worth.
Big question is "What percentage of that money is being spent locally?"
And how good are the locals at poaching?
Questions to ponder..

One of the arguments against leasing is, we would remove alot more deer, saving alot of wrecks from happening, if locals were able to hunt these areas. Sporting clubs purposely take as few as possible to let those trophies get bigger.

I wonder how much they spend locally as well. I know automotive and farming supplies, most are really good about buying local, but I know for a fact, they don't buy all their groceries and household items in town (I do).

Lol! I've heard stories of some hunters going rogue and doing things they probably shouldn't be doing. I've never been a lucky person, so I tend to steer clear of any of those types of shenanigans. I choose to approach the issue at it's source and talk to the landowners. It pisses alot of them off, but them getting mad doesn't change the truth.

I want everyone to be successful and all that, I just with they'd practice what they preach.