how about a Oklahoma,AR,MO,KS,TX,+IA GTG thread?

[67L36Driver]

Hi there mr Jim. How ya been doing [emoji2957]


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He do lurk frequently. [emoji6]

Morning midlanders!

I have two of the four Echo 351VL going out of the four in the last batch of small turds. Stupid misc small bits prevents all four from being winners. [emoji90]

 

[Cat 525]

Good morning sawyers! Nice and hot for first wkd of fair! Have a super day!

 

[sawnami]

Good morning.

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[Dub11]

Good morning.

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Don't @Hedgerow own a Spartan?

 

[67L36Driver]

Making plans with SIL to be in Branson next week, tenth thru the twelfth.

.Fish Taneycomo and Tablerock. [emoji106]

Take Brody out of school. Pilgrimage to ‘Our Lady of the 50 Degree Trout Water’ on the absence excuse slip. [emoji23]

 

[67L36Driver]

Fellow carried away my Echo three saw plan. [emoji6]

 

[KS Plainsman]

I just had to look it up, but I had no idea how long Echo has been around! I'd seen older looking Echo saws before, but never thought much about it. I only heard about them, maybe 5 years ago. How are the older Echo saws? Were they on par with the bigger companies?

I also wonder if the Sandvik on that bar is any relation to the machine tooling company. Anyone happen to know?

 

[67L36Driver]

Sandvik bars are made in Sweden AFAIK.

Old Echos are a pro grade saw but a touch short on power and some heavy. Reliable, yup.

A John Deere 80V (Echo 750) is 78cc and pulls like a diesel truck a 24”.

 

[KS Plainsman]

Sandvik bars are made in Sweden AFAIK.

Old Echos are a pro grade saw but a touch short on power and some heavy. Reliable, yup.

A John Deere 80V (Echo 750) is 78cc and pulls like a diesel truck a 24”.

Hmmm, I would bet they are related some how, since Sandvik Coromant is out of Sweden as well. Interesting, I might have to try to get my hands on one edit: (an older Echo that is). Thanks for the info!

 

[KS Plainsman]

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The 60S was the first echo imported to the USA. 60cc.
I have one that runs and cuts. They made a ton of different models. Probably the most famous, imho, is the 610EVL. 60cc 2 cyl. Probably the smoothest running saw I've ever seen. Not much on power though. Echo also made saws for John Deere. I've got a CS670 massaged by Alan. If I can ever afford another new one, it'll be one of Alan's 620P's.

That's interesting. They must have came to America under some other brand first I'm guessing. According to their site, they didn't get established in the US until '72 and didn't become Echo until '78, if I'm reading it right. Here's that link.

https://www.echo-usa.com/About-ECHO/About-Us

I had looked at the newer 620's, before I got my 461's, but only hesitated, because I wanted more power to run longer bars. I very well may end up with one at some point. Alot of folks sure seem to like them!

I'm still surprised they've been around that long! Dang near 60 years! Lol! I need to pay better attention!

 

[KS Plainsman]

My understanding is they imported them from Japan first, then established a plant in Illinois in 1972.
They first were Kioritzu Echo, then Kioritz Echo before they went to Echo.
Mine shows to be a 1970.

Ok, that makes sense then. I appreciate the information Sir!

 

[JimBear]

I also wonder if the Sandvik on that bar is any relation to the machine tooling company. Anyone happen to know?

I was wondering about a connection also. I will try to catch a tooling rep next time I see them at the shop or I will have my wife harass them when she orders.

 

[KS Plainsman]

I was wondering about a connection also. I will try to catch a tooling rep next time I see them at the shop or I will have my wife harass them when she orders.

I've been digging around because my curiosity has got the best of me, only because I dabble in machining as well, but the only thing I've come up with, is that alot of Sandvik bars seem to have Windsor on the packages. Or, they are labeled as Sandvik-Windsor.

So I know the parent company, Sandvik, is also into some advanced metal production type stuff, so I wonder if it wasn't a situation where Sandvik provided the steel, Windsor made the bars, and they labeled some Sandvik, some Windsor. Since alot of Windsor bars (that I've seen) seem to be stainless, and that was Sandvik's bread and butter in their metal technology branch, it makes sense.

However, I'm just guessing that, that was the relationship. I'm curious to know the facts between the two companies' relationship. I know Sandvik's tooling is top notch!

 

[KS Plainsman]

I was wondering about a connection also. I will try to catch a tooling rep next time I see them at the shop or I will have my wife harass them when she orders.

Keep me posted if you would please!

 

[Dub11]

I just had to look it up, but I had no idea how long Echo has been around! I'd seen older looking Echo saws before, but never thought much about it. I only heard about them, maybe 5 years ago. How are the older Echo saws? Were they on par with the bigger companies?

I also wonder if the Sandvik on that bar is any relation to the machine tooling company. Anyone happen to know?

Them older ones are bullet proof tanks. Only week point is the coils and being NLA.

String trimmers are some of the best.

Sandvik to my observation merged with Windsor who then merged with Carlton then was bought up by Oregon .

 

[moparnut88]

My understanding is they imported them from Japan first, then established a plant in Illinois in 1972.
They first were Kioritzu Echo, then Kioritz Echo before they went to Echo.
Mine shows to be a 1970.

So that old 60s you got from me was a 70? That's awesome!

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[KS Plainsman]

Them older ones are bullet proof tanks. Only week point is the coils and being NLA.

String trimmers are some of the best.

Sandvik to my observation merged with Windsor who then merged with Carlton then was bought up by Oregon .

Parts supply is what keeps me from buying several saws. That's why I always try to buy 2 of whatever I have, so if one goes down, and parts become obsolete, I will have a parts donor. Makes it pretty expensive to stock a bunch of extra parts or a parts saw or 2 just to have 1 runner though.

Thanks for the info on Sandvik! I guess that would explain why some are branded just Sandvik, and some are Sandvik-Windsor, pre-merger and post-merger.

 

[67L36Driver]

Time and moisture gets to many old coils.

The 0.003” diameter copper secondary winding gets corroded and gets brittle. Coupled with vibration from the engine they go open.

Wico and Phelon not so much but Bosch, Nippon Denso, Benedix Scintilla, etc quite often are dead or soon to be.

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Got a nice shower this morning settled the dust nicely.

 

[Cat 525]

Storms through the night here! More noise than rain!