Has the 661 been proven like the 066/660?

[sawmikaze]

You could be on to something. That was one of the reason I wanted Scott and Julian to run the piss out of my 261 before sending it back.

My first 241 on the day i broke it in i felt the saw shift on its 3rd tank and get stronger..ill break in every computer saw the same way..it works.

 

[Hinerman]

Actually i think mtronic gets a bad rap at times because service guys will make a few cuts and shut a saw off because of the nature of the work..intermittent use can make starts kinda funny and not really break the saw in good for guys not up to date on how these saws work and then those guys go talk *s-word and think computer carbs suck.

Every single mtron ive had i waited until i knew i had a huge pile of logs to buck and just went and gave the saw hell for a few tanks cut after cut to set the mtronic and help the rings seat...didnt matter if it was a 201 or 661.

It could be in my head..but...i swear the ones ive broke in that way run better than others that had alot of intermittent use from the start and coincidentally those saws have start issues at times.

You might be right. Like I said in an earlier post, the Stock Saw Competition 661 was a nightmare to restart between competitors. They were pulling 15-20 times, sometimes more to get it restarted; not just one time either, it was every single time somebody shut the saw off. That was all I needed to see to know I don't want one. I don't have that problem with any of my standard carb saws. 661s do run good though, but so do other saws in the same class.

 

[MustangMike]

You might be right. Like I said in an earlier post, the Stock Saw Competition 661 was a nightmare to restart between competitors. They were pulling 15-20 times, sometimes more to get it restarted; not just one time either, it was every single time somebody shut the saw off. That was all I needed to see to know I don't want one. I don't have that problem with any of my standard carb saws. 661s do run good though, but so do other saws in the same class.

When it was warm, were they using the "Run" position or the "Start" position? I'll bet if it were a standard carb saw, and someone put it in choke mode every time to start it when it was warm, it would do the exact same thing.

I think you are blaming M-Tronic for operator error. Also, you should idle an M-Tron saw for a few seconds before shutting it down. It is just a matter of knowing your saw.

 

[Hinerman]

When it was warm, were they using the "Run" position or the "Start" position? I'll bet if it were a standard carb saw, and someone put it in choke mode every time to start it when it was warm, it would do the exact same thing.

I think you are blaming M-Tronic for operator error. Also, you should idle an M-Tron saw for a few seconds before shutting it down. It is just a matter of knowing your saw.

Operator error is a definite possibility. I don't know what they were doing, but it wasn't working.

 

[MustangMike]

These new fangled contraptions, they just don't work right!!!!!!

 

[blsnelling]

Also, you should idle an M-Tron saw for a few seconds before shutting it down. It is just a matter of knowing your saw.

AFAIK, Stihl has always recommended that for all their saws. Perhaps it's more important for these electronically controlled saws. I've seen this recommended for AutoTune saws as well.

 

[sawmikaze]

To be frank, working in the tree industry...mtronic and auto tune are a blessing. Peak performance all the time in any conditions and at varying altitudes? What more can you really ask of a saw? I love them. I'm going to run my 660 for a bit but down the road I plan on replacing it with the 661, it only makes sense.

If you wanna be frank can i be tom ?

 

[TreeLife]

If you wanna be frank can i be tom ?

Or jerry?

 

[sawmikaze]

You might be right. Like I said in an earlier post, the Stock Saw Competition 661 was a nightmare to restart between competitors. They were pulling 15-20 times, sometimes more to get it restarted; not just one time either, it was every single time somebody shut the saw off. That was all I needed to see to know I don't want one. I don't have that problem with any of my standard carb saws. 661s do run good though, but so do other saws in the same class.

I might be...

Mtronic or not its still a chainsaw..it all applies.

Its not like i never had a standard carb saw that didnt make me crazy..

 

[Manofstihl066]

Mtronic

 

[CR888]

It would not be a 'good look' seeing 15 blokes not be able to restart Stihl's flagship pro saw's at a Stihl sponsered event. However all those saws were not faulty they were just put into a situation that they hate the most. Ridden real hard and switched straight off without allowing the cooling system to function heat soaking the carbs. Same problem the 5 series suffered and dealers would test the saws to diagnose finding nothing wrong. Understanding these new designs have some inherent design differences that effect heat transfer will prevent users having problems or highly minimise them I think. But its not a good look when new but experienced saw users cannot start a new pro saw.

 

[MustangMike]

I'll fault the instructions, which tell you to always use the "Start" position (which is almost like choke), when in reality a warm saw should be started in the "Run" position.

Also, since there is not a "Fast Idle" position, if the saw does get flooded, holding the trigger down will help facilitate starting. In the end, it is still just a chainsaw.

 

[Dustin4185]

When it was warm, were they using the "Run" position or the "Start" position? I'll bet if it were a standard carb saw, and someone put it in choke mode every time to start it when it was warm, it would do the exact same thing.

I think you are blaming M-Tronic for operator error. Also, you should idle an M-Tron saw for a few seconds before shutting it down. It is just a matter of knowing your saw.

I have noticed if I let my 661 idle for 30 seconds, it starts much easier. I also switched to 100% e free pump gas instead of canned fuel.

 

[angelo c]

I'll fault the instructions, which tell you to always use the "Start" position (which is almost like choke), when in reality a warm saw should be started in the "Run" position.

Also, since there is not a "Fast Idle" position, if the saw does get flooded, holding the trigger down will help facilitate starting. In the end, it is still just a chainsaw.

I'm a little dumber then the average dummy....i really like the choke-run-off switch system on the 661.
Push up to shut off. Springs back to run. Pick saw up pull cord....vrooom
No guessing no fussing.
Choke only first thing in morning.

 

[sawmikaze]

I'm a little dumber then the average dummy....i really like the choke-run-off switch system on the 661.
Push up to shut off. Springs back to run. Pick saw up pull cord....vrooom
No guessing no fussing.
Choke only first thing in morning.

Then you could add in that compared to a 660 in stock trim a 661 walks all over it..smoother etc.

 

[TreeLife]

Then you could add in that compared to a 660 in stock trim a 661 walks all over it..smoother etc.

It's definitely a more refined machine, there is no doubt. All around improvement on one of the best (only my opinion) duty worthy saws ever. I'm a sucker for a 660/661

 

[Manofstihl066]

It's definitely a more refined machine, there is no doubt. All around improvement on one of the best (only my opinion) duty worthy saws ever. I'm a sucker for a 660/661

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Nice saw/bar combo there Nick!

 

[TreeLife]

I likes it, Brad. I have a few stihl bars but wanted something different.

 

[RI Chevy]

Does the Tsumura LW hold up better than the Stihl bars Nick?

 

[Manofstihl066]

I likes it, Brad. I have a few stihl bars but wanted something different.

I've yet to try a Stihl light, but the tsumura is quality bar.