Duke's saw chain

[Woodpecker]

It's always fun when a chain is ripping through some wood, then switch to live oak, and it cuts at 3/4 the speed with smaller chips/curls.

Dry dead ash will do that here too. I have a theory that it’s a mineral content/concentration thing.

 

[farminkarman]

Dry dead ash will do that here too. I have a theory that it’s a mineral content/concentration thing.

I have a maple log at my house that went from cutting like normal hard maple to concrete a year later. I have never seen a log change that much.

 

[Woodpecker]

I have a maple log at my house that went from cutting like normal hard maple to concrete a year later. I have never seen a log change that much.

There’s another one. Living up to that rock maple moniker. I’m sure there’s a big brain egg head explanation for it, but I sure don’t know why.

 

[Squareground3691]

Dry dead ash will do that here too. I have a theory that it’s a mineral content/concentration thing.

Dry dead ash will do that here too. I have a theory that it’s a mineral content/concentration thing.

This ash was snotty after the EAB killed it , was dead for year before cutting,

 

[Woodpecker]

This ash View attachment 433154 was snotty after the EAB killed it , was dead for year before cutting,

Yeah that shtuff! Great firewood though.

 

[Squareground3691]

Yeah that shtuff! Great firewood though.

All I have been burning last few years, had so much of it, it burns hot ,

 

[farminkarman]

All I have been burning last few years, had so much of it, it burns hot ,

I really like burning ash in the stove. I never have to clean the glass.

 

[Squareground3691]

I really like burning ash in the stove. I never have to clean the glass.

Lol ,

 

[East/West CADaddict]

It's always fun when a chain is ripping through some wood, then switch to live oak, and it cuts at 3/4 the speed with smaller chips/curls.

When I was in Santa Cruz mountains cutting, live oak was always spindly and never really more than 24". I believe the oaks mainly out there grew in such dry sandy, powdery soil really made that oak species "less hearty" than say ANY oak here on the east coast. But then again, I'm just a hairless chimp, drinking a beer fumbling his digits on a keyboard, while spinning around on a rock in space. IE I'm an idiot drinking a beer..... oooh chainsaw.

 

[HumBurner]

When I was in Santa Cruz mountains cutting, live oak was always spindly and never really more than 24". I believe the oaks mainly out there grew in such dry sandy, powdery soil really made that oak species "less hearty" than say ANY oak here on the east coast. But then again, I'm just a hairless chimp, drinking a beer fumbling his digits on a keyboard, while spinning around on a rock in space. IE I'm an idiot drinking a beer..... oooh chainsaw.

Conditions always determine the ultimate end result. The Janka scale is useful, but it's all averages and can't possibly represent each independent clime.

This property hosted several large, old growth or older live oaks. I was asked to take this one out some years back as a solo job.


Super tight grain, hard as a rock. ~3'x5.5-6' oval diameter.

At one of my old places, there was a live oak that was at least 80, if not 100'+ tall and straight as an arrow. I was looking at it from ~40' up on a knoll and it was 16-20" dia at that point. Never made it down the canyon to see the base, but those hills were previously home to 3-6' dia madrone, tan oak, and fir all over. Largely unlogged due to the terrain, but not completely.

 

[davidwyby]

This one was chain skating hard. Dead for decades. Might have been harder than dried up Osage.

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

This one was chain skating hard. Dead for decades. Might have been harder than dried up Osage.

I've cut dryed up Osage, didn't know anything could be harder.

 

[HumBurner]

This one was chain skating hard. Dead for decades. Might have been harder than dried up Osage.

Pooflinger, lol

 

[Wilhelm]

So, who's gonna try The Duke's carbide tipped chains?
I'd love to, being over the pond negates that though.

That carbide insert is full chisel, it could potentially be ground square - unlike the Stihl RD3 & PD3 which have semi chisel inserts (I own one of each).

 

[Wilhelm]

Mr. @Duke Thieroff , any chance of a picture of the carbide insert from the inside to see its cutter profile?

Thank You!

 

[Duke Thieroff]

Mr. @Duke Thieroff , any chance of a picture of the carbide insert from the inside to see its cutter profile?

Thank You!

Sure, it's full chisel to simplify.

I can get a pic tomorrow....if I remember

 

[Wilhelm]

Sure, it's full chisel to simplify.

I can get a pic tomorrow....if I remember

Thread carefully!

Full chisel is anything but "simple" for the wacko's residing here.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Also, we get this question a lot.

The reality is that most aftermarket parts originate in China or Taiwan, with much smaller quantities being made in Europe and then India (VEC/Golf/Private Label Pistons)

Generally when we hear this question we are already prepared to see the "frown" face. The whole reason the question was asked was so the gentleman could react. He likely knew the answer, he just wanted to hear me say it so he could disapprove.

We all like to buy the "best" stuff, or OEM is the top choice, but the ends don't always justify the means.

There's hundreds of saws out there that have been saved from the scrap pile as a result of reasonably priced parts, and the market speaks to it. Chainsaws are relatively "cheap" so $50-100 difference in parts really makes a difference.

That's my two-bit case for aftermarket parts.

When we buy a used vehicle, do we promptly ask the seller if "all the parts are OEM?"
Why do we do this specifically with chainsaws?

As the aftermarket builds out, the quality has become noticeably better with each iteration.

This is all well and good as long as sellers are honest about what they used, an all oem saws is worth one price and a cheap white box rebuild is worth another. Too often this isn’t how they list it either by accident or on purpose and lots of times it’s on purpose with no disclosure of a 50$ top end on the saw they are asking 7-800$ for and this is my only issue with the easy cheap parts. Its not on people selling the parts it’s the dishonest saw flippers wanting good money for a saw they have 50$ into.

 

[Bjorn]

Hello. Have any one try to square file the dukes full chisel chain?