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So... This is the the new bearing break in thread, right?
Piston, rings and seals do not apply in chainsaws for break-in but new bearings of any kind need a fat first tank, nuf said. Agreed, TIA

Oh btw electric motors and such running 6202- 2or3 bearings have no break-in period, period.
 

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Modded before I even fueled it up. Runs strong and snappy on first tank still. Amsoil Saber 100.1 oil. Mixed a 50.1 for all my saws20170425_161436.jpgyeah it's my 2nd new saw ever
 

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Well firstly the term break in usually refers to the seating/bedding of piston rings into a new bore. How does this happen? Gas pressure is responsible for this as it forces the rings against the cylinder wall. How do we get lots of gas pressure? We put the saw into running conditions that promote this....load and throttle is what is required to create the most pressure. You only get a small window of opportunity to get a good break in, all saw will break in no matter what you do but to achieve a good ring seal that resists blow by is what we want to make power. As far as oil mix ratio's are concerned mineral oil will do a better job than synthetics and more oil will help. Heat cycles are a thing of the past, machine tolerances are much better today than years past so the idea of 'going easy' is not good practice. As justsaws mentioned if a component is going to fail, it will do so whether you go easy or hard, its just a matter of time/conditions. Running a saw out of wood WOT is not creating the conditions required for good break in,idling the saw for the first tank is about the worst thing one can do. I won't even start a new two stroke until I am ready to break it in properly. Get it right and you will have a saw that makes more power than one that has been poorly done, you will also avoid contamination from blow by which we don't want. If you insist on running full synthetic oil do so after break in is done. Hope this helps.


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There are many wives tales surrounding the break in subject. When you understand how it works its just a matter of creating the conditions that do it best. The benefits or getting it right are well worth it.
 

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For the heat cycle guys. What do you believe it accomplishes?
 

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For the heat cycle guys. What do you believe it accomplishes?
I only believe that heat cycles are necessary for work hardening flat bearings (I've wiped out babbit bearings by not heat cycling), which are not in any OPE.

OPE should be run like gangbusters after enough time to warm up to operating temperature
 

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I only believe that heat cycles are necessary for work hardening flat bearings (I've wiped out babbit bearings by not heat cycling), which are not in any OPE.

OPE should be run like gangbusters after enough time to warm up to operating temperature
I agree that she'll style bearings q.ay require some break in. OTOH hand we have poured babbitt bearings at work for very expensive equipment that see zero breaking after a re pour.
 

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I agree that she'll style bearings q.ay require some break in. OTOH hand we have poured babbitt bearings at work for very expensive equipment that see zero breaking after a re pour.
Is this equipment internal combustion engines ?
 

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I agree that she'll style bearings q.ay require some break in. OTOH hand we have poured babbitt bearings at work for very expensive equipment that see zero breaking after a re pour.
All non-combustion equipment that I'm aware of with Babbitt bearing see no "break-in" period. They just turn them on and run them, including large diesel engines.
 

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All non-combustion equipment that I'm aware of with Babbitt bearing see no "break-in" period. They just turn them on and run them, including large diesel engines.
But there usually sealed bearings and not spinning 13000 rpm.
 

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I tried running a saw once, and it scared the bajeezus outta me.

that's because you dropped a tree on your damn leg


So run it like you stole it then .

Those might be redundant adverbs. Jon1212 is coming to verify if you can do that here. (not saying you can't)

j1212: please line these guys out on there/their/they're while you're in there with grammatic suggestione and things....
 

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that's because you dropped a tree on your damn leg




Those might be redundant adverbs. Jon1212 is coming to verify if you can do that here. (not saying you can't)

j1212: please line these guys out on there/their/they're while you're in there with grammatic suggestione and things....
Whut is a grammatic suggestione
 

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IL let em warm up and allow any expansion of parts like slug n jug also allows it to load up on oil. Also run em a bit richer to keep em cooler, I will work em but they don't piss rev for a few tanks but will pull strong and be worked hard.
Just my way of break inn. Use to do the same with dirt bikes too
 

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But there usually sealed bearings and not spinning 13000 rpm.
None of the ones I spoke of are sealed and although they don't spin that kind of RPM the load on them is much greater. To the tune of 121,000HP give or take at 3600rpm.
 

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None of the ones I spoke of are sealed and although they don't spin that kind of RPM the load on them is much greater. To the tune of 121,000HP give or take at 3600rpm.
Glad my testy isn't for those bearings
 
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