70cc class Dyno day

[dall]

Fixt

036 didnt have a fresh chain on it
and i said it before ship the 365 to joe slacker

 

[rogue60]

28inch bar chain no fluids don't know how accurate give or take a pound.

 

[drf256]

Anything under 240 and people make fun of me, so....

Nooone likes a skinny sausage .

 

[00wyk]

I've collected all the weights. Thank you, guys. Always feel free to PM me with weights!

 

[00wyk]

Jeez, I’m 5’9” and 200. Anything under 185 and I start to get weak. To each their own I guess.

Swung a 395 around yesterday with a standard weight 36” 404 Stihl bar. It’s the only saw that makes me think about weight that I own. There really is no substitute when you just gotta get it done.

I even brought the Stihl’s out to watch.


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The right tool for the job!

I mainly used a ported 288 w/32" for big work.

But, if I can help it, the 044 is my main go to:

I work on an old huge estate -about 400 years old in it's current family ownership, but it's been here for 800 years or more - so haunted AF. I SEE things in the mist! The trees are hundreds of years old. Most of my firewood comes when the old ones fall or rot so much I have to take them down.

The first day in work on the estate in Waterford, Ireland. There was a storm that threw down a lot of trees. A couple went across a road that cuts the state in two and provides access to the local villages. The local council sent folks out to clear it. We met them and worked with them. Me in the middle here:

 

[00wyk]

Mitch done fabbed us a full wrap for the echo

Mitch is a badass.

 

[00wyk]

It’s ironic we make such a big deal about a saws weight and a few ounces is a deal breaker and makes it too heavy, but none of us pay any attention to the bathroom scale. That’s the weight that affects us. Read a statistic the other day- Every pound a person drops- takes 7lbs of pressure off our bones and joints.

Some thing that we carry/use occasionally does not matter.

All good points. The reason I started the gallery was not only because of on line arguing rights. It was because of personal experience.
I used to own this - A 'D' piston 046 back when I was working logging in Oregon:

Someone mentioned the 372XP was almost as powerful, but it weighed 2 lbs less! I had an opportunity to make a straight across trade. My back and neck were injured at the time, and the 046 and I was getting old and I wasn't nearly as good at working on saws back then, so I decided to give it a try.
Well, as some folks here now know, the difference is nowhere near 2lbs. It's more like 9.5 ounces on a full wrap. And the 046 was much more powerful. On paper, they look close, but in practice, an 046D slaps a 372xp silly in the type of wood I was cutting at the time with 28 inch bars.
Now, 9.4 ounces isn't much. It's just some fuel. But, it sure as hell isn't 32 ounces. I was rather unimpressed with the whole experience, and decided to help folks avoid the same mistake I made out of ignorance.

BTW, anyone got an 046d full wrap they wanna chunk on a scale for us?

I also need an 066.

@sawfun /Don and I were working one weekend and we swapped saws to try them out. Mine was a 385xp and his was an 066. I thought the 066 was much stronger and weighed a lot less. He agreed. But that could have been the fluids(a 385/390 have generous tanks). Anyone got an 066 or even a 660 they can put on a scale? Wrap or no.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

The right tool for the job!

I mainly used a ported 288 w/32" for big work.

But, if I can help it, the 044 is my main go to:

I work on an old huge estate -about 400 years old in it's current family ownership, but it's been here for 800 years or more - so haunted AF. I SEE things in the mist! The trees are hundreds of years old. Most of my firewood comes when the old ones fall or rot so much I have to take them down.

The first day in work on the estate in Waterford, Ireland. There was a storm that threw down a lot of trees. A couple went across a road that cuts the state in two and provides access to the local villages. The local council sent folks out to clear it. We met them and worked with them. Me in the middle here:

That last picture says" looks like I'll be getting in that loader bucket"

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Its a shame more novice users dont get information about saws like this . Sure we all have dozens of various saws and experience in modifying them, but the average person might only ever buy 2 saws in their life and never do anything to them but general maintenance.
I really thought this was a fantastic "out of the box" review. Thank you, Sir.

 

[redlight066]

I've been told that anything over 160lbs is too much for my liddle legs.

Going on a diet today.

Good friend of mine went for his annual physical. Said his doc had a great sense of humor. At the end of the visit the doc told him his ideal height was 6’7”. Brett is 6’0”

 

[00wyk]

That last picture says" looks like I'll be getting in that loader bucket"

I did end up there, but only for one reason. There was a communications cable running along the side of the road caught under one of the limbs, pulling it well in to the road. It connected a village in county Tipperary(Kilsheelan) with one in county Waterford(Clonmel, which is really a town), and we were in the middle. If I cut it standing near the root ball, I would have risked it tearing it all down if the trunk moved enough. So I had to nip the top if it using the bucket, and then nip the base of it near the line by the side of the road/wall. It was under a bit of tension, so I left just a small amount of trunk above it, then went up the hillside and nipped the part under it to send the piece of trunk flying. Then I was free to cut the root ball loose after a bit of chunking. If not for the cable, I would have cut the ball loose and worked it down as safely as possible as I often do on the estate to make sure it doesn't shift as I cut. Also, the council workers that showed up were volunteers who worked the roads mostly. No professional saws, no real forestry working equipment except for what I brought.

 

[RI Chevy]

Nice job. [emoji106]

 

[huskihl]

Nooone likes a skinny sausage .

Exactly what I’m thinkin’

 

[bryanr2]

We’re talking ounces here fellas.... it’s the difference in taking a Single piss and holding it.

 

[sawmikaze]

We’re talking ounces here fellas.... it’s the difference in taking a Single piss and holding it.

It adds up. Follow along.

 

[dustinwilt68]

So far I learned the 572 is the winner HP per cc.
Apparently 4


What about HP per $1? Lighter wallet makes a bigger difference to most then 3-4 oz in a saw.

572 cost me $800
462 cost me $1000
500i $1300.00
7310 $750
7900EA $800

 

[RI Chevy]

Good points Dustin. Just comes down to personal preference.
Pretty much where we were before all this happened.
Your money. You buy what you like...

 

[dustinwilt68]

Like I have said before we probably have the group of 70+cc options to choose from now as any group of saws we have ever had on the market, you can honestly justify any saw on this list and not be wrong, each has positives and a negatives, I recently sold my 462 to a customer and picked up a 572, just wanted to try something different. The 462 was a great firewood saw, and I would buy another.

 

[Wolverine]

So far I learned the 572 is the winner HP per cc.
Apparently 4


What about HP per $1? Lighter wallet makes a bigger difference to most then 3-4 oz in a saw.

572 cost me $800
462 cost me $1000
500i $1300.00
7310 $750
7900EA $800

Here's what they charge per cc and per hp @ those prices.
572 @ 71cc = 6.69hp .0942hp/cc @$800 = $11.27 per cc $119.58 per hp
3710p @ 73.5(?)cc = 5.36hp .0729hp/cc @$750 = $10.20 per cc $139.92 per hp
7900 @ 78.5cc = 6.47hp .0824hp/cc @$800 = $10.19 per cc $123.65 per hp
500i @ 79.2cc = 7.10hp .0896hp/cc @$1300 = $16.41 per cc $183.10 per hp
462 @ 72.2cc = 6.78hp .0939hp/cc @$1000 = $13.85 per cc $147.49 per hp

Husky = best value hp per doll hair
Dolly = best value cc per doll hair, Echo 1 cent more.

 

[huskihl]

You husky guys are giving yourselves headaches trying to justify the 572. Give it a rest