Cutting brush with a 500i?

[Wilhelm]

The MS500i being autotune & injection the electronics may not know how to tune when raped in a pure brush clearing work environment.
It is a 80cc saw intended & software tuned for heavy loads, not clipping brush!

 

[Nate.]

That’s kinda what I was thinking to some extent.

The MS500i being autotune & injection the electronics may not know how to tune when raped in a pure brush clearing work environment.
It is a 80cc saw intended & software tuned for heavy loads, not clipping brush!

 

[Nate.]

raid said dumpster at night?

You have no idea how tempted I’ve been! Fire work pays too well though to put your job on the line for parts .

Same here, if the repair to damage on the saw is more than half the cost of a new saw of same, it goes on the burn pile. I have been able to salvage two 372s from the burn pile with other parts I have found there before they got torched and got them running. Most crew don’t know how to do maintenance beyond filter and plug replacement and sharpening chains.

They’d rather see them burn then let someone profit from them.

 

[Woodwackr]

You have no idea how tempted I’ve been! Fire work pays too well though to put your job on the line for parts .

They’d rather see them burn then let someone profit from them.

Drop an anonymous hint to a friend?

 

[Wilhelm]

Drop an anonymous hint to a friend?

Split equal share, 80/20 for the dumpster raider!

 

[lehman live edge slab]

You have no idea how tempted I’ve been! Fire work pays too well though to put your job on the line for parts .

They’d rather see them burn then let someone profit from them.

Which is bs since the tax payers bought them in the first place

 

[TheWizard]

Two types of people use saws, one treats it as a tool and looks after it whether its their own purchase or the companies, filters are cleaned chain kept sharp and generally good maintenance. The second type is grab the saw start and straight into wood no chance to warm up, blunt chain poor chain oil never look at filters and not concerned because its the companies saw. The 500i was made to cut wood, the odd bit of brashing to fell a tree is normal use but all day brashing like under power lines is not normal use. The right tools for the job is important and should be down to the person who assessed the job in the first place. BUT saying that, I have often found those that tell you what to do cant do it themselves.
Interesting post and discussion, personally I dont think the 500i is at fault here.

 

[Squareground3691]

Which is bs since the tax payers bought them in the first place

The government, is there own entity they don’t care ,

 

[farminkarman]

Too many rpms with not enough oil will make a lot of heat between the piston & cylinder even if the saw isn’t under much load. All these guys run 50:1 and say it’s great…but then they wonder why their saws don’t last.

 

[hacskaroly]

They’d rather see them burn then let someone profit from them.

Unfortunately they can't just sell them outright to the public, if it is sold it has to be done through an auction. That process usually ends up costing more than they make on the sales of much of the equipment. When I was in the Air Force we had DRMO (Defense Reutilization and Marketing Office), stuff would be turned in there and then government agencies had first dibs, but nothing claimed would go to public auction. Often times you had to buy a pallet worth of stuff as it was sold in lots.

Sometimes things would get mislabeled or turned in incorrectly and was sold to the public, like a missile targeting system this one guy was able to buy. A few days later AFOSI (Air Force Office of Special Investigations) showed up at his house wanting the targeting system back, his response was, "I wondered how long it would take for you guys to show up".

 

[hacskaroly]

Too many rpms with not enough oil will make a lot of heat between the piston & cylinder and even if the saw isn’t under much load. All these guys run 50:1 and say it’s great…but then they wonder why their saws don’t last.

Yup and I am sure they don't let them idle for a short bit after running them to help them cool down. If they are anything like the guys that work at my office, they test their saw every day by firing it up, going full blast for 5-10 seconds and then shut it down.

 

[farminkarman]

Yup and I am sure they don't let them idle for a short bit after running them to help them cool down. If they are anything like the guys that work at my office, they test their saw every day by firing it up, going full blast for 5-10 seconds and then shut it down.

That is great for new saw sales, lol. The other one is straight gassing. My local shop just had another straight gassing victim….almost brand new 555 husky this time.

 

[hacskaroly]

Two types of people use saws, one treats it as a tool and looks after it whether its their own purchase or the companies, filters are cleaned chain kept sharp and generally good maintenance. The second type is grab the saw start and straight into wood no chance to warm up, blunt chain poor chain oil never look at filters and not concerned because its the companies saw.

Interesting post and discussion, personally I don't think the 500i is at fault here.

I agree, I can go through our shop here at work and out of the 30 saws hanging on the rack, I would bet at least 1/3 are missing a bar nut, get looking closer and there are nasty filters, bars that need dressing, screws missing or not the right sized screw crammed into its hole.

Like any other tool, if you don't use it correctly/take care of it, you will shorten its life span. Slashing brush with a 500i just seems silly. We had guys here that traded in their working MS 261c for a MS 300....because it has a battery...

 

[hacskaroly]

That is great for new saw sales, lol. The other one is straight gassing. My local shop just had another straight gassing victim….almost brand new 555 husky this time.

I bought my 261c for $50....guy who owned it put its first tank of gas as straight gas and didn't want to pay for the repair and abandoned it at my store. It was sold to me for parts. Replaced the piston and cylinder with a Mtanlo and I was up and running!

 

[Woodwackr]

The government, is there own entity they don’t care ,

Leviathan…

 

[FederalQ]

Didn‘t the taxpayers of the US Forest Service and Army fund the research and development of the Sachs-Dolmar KMS-4 back in the 70‘s? I understand it was in production for less than a year, then scrapped. It appears that throw away mentality is alive and well.

 

[hacskaroly]

It appears that throw away mentality is alive and well.

Yup, some people find it easy to throw something away if they didn't directly pull the cash out of their pocket to pay for it.

 

[Nate.]

While I agree with you guys about the abuse and also 50:1 mix what I'm wondering is why would a 462c and a 500i run side by side not have the same results? The 462's have been having their own issues but its what I would consider normal breakage. but like I said I've had 6 blown 500i's and 0 other blown powerheads. So what makes a 462 more durable in brushing operations than the 500i? This is what has me puzzled.

 

[farminkarman]

While I agree with you guys about the abuse and also 50:1 mix what I'm wondering is why would a 462c and a 500i run side by side not have the same results? The 462's have been having their own issues but it’s what I would consider normal breakage. but like I said I've had 6 blown 500i's and 0 other blown powerheads. So what makes a 462 more durable in brushing operations than the 500i? This is what has me puzzled.

The theory I have heard, and I would support is that the 500i makes tuning corrections much faster than a 462 or 362. Might be what is causing the 500i issues when used like this.

 

[Squareground3691]

While I agree with you guys about the abuse and also 50:1 mix what I'm wondering is why would a 462c and a 500i run side by side not have the same results? The 462's have been having their own issues but its what I would consider normal breakage. but like I said I've had 6 blown 500i's and 0 other blown powerheads. So what makes a 462 more durable in brushing operations than the 500i? This is what has me puzzled.

Different fuel delivery,