What oil is best? and what ratio?

[huskihl]

More Stihl Ultra pics. Great stuff!

 

[RI Chevy]

Did it seize up? Or just carbon up?

 

[3browns]

More Stihl Ultra pics. Great stuff!

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My son was milling with his MS-660 a couple weeks back and I asked him what oil he was using

He said he was running Ultra at 50:1

I told him he was going to burn his saw up and that he needed to switch to Yamalube or Saber at 32:1 and to fatten it up a bit because when he left the saw at my house over the winter I did a muffler mod

He told the guys at the Stihl shop what I said and they told him if he listened to me he would ruin his saw...

They said it was doomed to die anyway because I did the muffler mod

He and I have gone round and round about bad info like this

Oh well, not my stuffs...

 

[Chainganger]

More Stihl Ultra pics. Great stuff!

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OMG!

 

[huskihl]

Did it seize up? Or just carbon up?

Just carbon everywhere. Flaking off. Little bit of scuffing on the intake side.

 

[NCFarmboy]

My son was milling with his MS-660 a couple weeks back and I asked him what oil he was using

He said he was running Ultra at 50:1

I told him he was going to burn his saw up and that he needed to switch to Yamalube or Saber at 32:1 and to fatten it up a bit because when he left the saw at my house over the winter I did a muffler mod

He told the guys at the Stihl shop what I said and they told him if he listened to me he would ruin his saw...

They said it was doomed to die anyway because I did the muffler mod

He and I have gone round and round about bad info like this

Oh well, not my stuffs...

Stihl tech's & dealers are brain washed @ school.
Shep

 

[3browns]

Stihl tech's & dealers are brain washed @ school.
Shep

This is the same Stihl shop that refused to sell me some chains 8-9 years ago because I didn’t have the saw with me

Said they were sick of taking loops back because people didn’t know what they needed

I guess that’s their prerogative

Mine is to shop elsewhere

 

[Deets066]

I just want you guys to know, I have a birthday coming up!

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http://www.klotzlube.com/apparel.html

The candles are more expensive than the oil.

 

[bwalker]

Anyone hear of this or try this?
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Likely snake oil.

 

[bwalker]

Lol. I really don't know enough about it.
But it says it is good for TC-W3, API TC and JASO FB ratings.
Not sure if that can actually be.

Most TCW3 oils will pass FB. None will meet FC or FD.

 

[bwalker]

i see it has the elusive “jasco” fb rating. lol.

Elusive because it's from the early 80's...

 

[RI Chevy]

LOL. Thank you sir.

 

[Clemsonfor]

My son was milling with his MS-660 a couple weeks back and I asked him what oil he was using

He said he was running Ultra at 50:1

I told him he was going to burn his saw up and that he needed to switch to Yamalube or Saber at 32:1 and to fatten it up a bit because when he left the saw at my house over the winter I did a muffler mod

He told the guys at the Stihl shop what I said and they told him if he listened to me he would ruin his saw...

They said it was doomed to die anyway because I did the muffler mod

He and I have gone round and round about bad info like this

Oh well, not my stuffs...

Well he burned that bad boy up all right!! I'm guessing he didn't listen too you!! [emoji50]Look how hot that thing was running!! Way on the lean side!

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[bwalker]

Over the years I have seen many wonder lubes appear, then quickly disappear. Blue Marble is one that comes to mind, but there are many others. The odds of a small blender having the resources to actually research and develop something new in the lubrication world is about zero. The small refiner I work for cant even do that so they sub out all their lubricant business. It's hard to compete with Chevron, Exxon-Mobil and Shell.

 

[bwalker]

More Stihl Ultra pics. Great stuff!

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I'm wondering if something else is going on here. Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like detonation maybe given the blasted appearance? Perhaps the fuel was contaminated? Plug looks really crusty and nasty.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I know ultra is supposed to be crap oil but the one tree service I fix saws for uses it and I’ve never seen this inside his saws. His plugs may have some carbon along with the top of piston but no plugs that look like they are trying to burn the electrode off.

 

[Clemsonfor]

I know ultra is supposed to be crap oil but the one tree service I fix saws for uses it and I’ve never seen this inside his saws. His plugs may have some carbon along with the top of piston but no plugs that look like they are trying to burn the electrode off.

After the muffler mod are we sure this saw was fattened up to where it needs to be, sure doesn't look like it even with 50:1

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[huskihl]

I'm wondering if something else is going on here. Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like detonation maybe given the blasted appearance? Perhaps the fuel was contaminated? Plug looks really crusty and nasty.

Not sure about the fuel. He said it was always e free and ultra at 50 to 1. I didn't see any detonation going on. But every saw I dig into that looks like this was run on ultra . Theres always a pretty good layer on the combustion chamber and it's always flaking off the piston

 

[dmb2613]

REGULAR OLD Stihl IN THE ORANGA BOTTLE sorry caps , mixed at 40 to 1 that is 6.4 oz of oil to 2 gal of 93 oct gas no ethanol and I am a Stihl tech and have been for a while , may foul a plug once in a while but the saw will last

 

[3browns]

Anyone hear of this or try this?
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So out of curiosity I skimmed back through this thread and this oil was brought up before at the top of page 735...

Consensus was expensive snake oil

The "best oil" discussion devolved into a toilet paper thread at that point