Would you buy a new 565 xtorq

[Ford3000]

Just wondering if you would buy an xtorq 365 over a modern
saw of similar size.
The AV figures dont look apealing compared to modern saws,
is it worth going more modern to get the better AV.
The rest of the saw I would have no qualms about.

 

[Motorka]

565 or 365 ?

 

[Ford3000]

565 or 365 ?

@Motorka , that would be the Husqvarna equivilent, I understand the 565 would
have better AV, but preffer the non AT type saws.
If I were to go to the Stihl camp, I would be comparing the MS400, because of weight,
its still lighter but has more power and better AV, again MT, but at some poing I may have
to bite the AT MT bullet.

Its that long since I had my 372 I just dont recall how the vibes were, I have also aged
12 years since then, this is why AV matters, otherwise I would be quite happy with
a new 365 xtorq for what I am going to do.

 

[Motorka]

I like autotune, for now. On other side there is 365 xt can be easly convert to 372 xt.
And biggest thing for many price.

 

[Ford3000]

I like autotune, for now. On other side there is 365 xt can be easly convert to 372 xt.
And biggest thing for many price.

Hi @Motorka , yes, its good to be able to modify the 365,
the 565 needs new transfere covers which I think are not sold
seperately, wonder what would happen if you actually needed a cover.

Its the vibes on the 365 that am unsure of, been so long since I had such a model,
I like everything else about it though, including the price.

I can get a MS400 for 225.00 more, and the vibes on it are advertised way lower,
hate to fork out for better vibes, but thats my conundrum and it looks like I will have to.

Makita you have let us down, I had no issue with 7900 vibes, and
the 7300 class which is nearest to my current needs should be no worse and probably better.

 

[cuinrearview]

Hi @MotorkaMakita you have let us down

Since you're looking for good AV and non-AT it must be lost in translation why you would say this.

 

[Ford3000]

Since you're looking for good AV and non-AT it must be lost in translation why you would say this.

Good vibration system is my priority, and Makita did not let me down in this regard,
7900. 6100, and 4300 saws, I was happy with the AV on all of them,
but Makita are going out of gas saw production by 2022.

AT would not be missed by me, but what are the options
with good AV, light weight and up to 4kw.

 

[cuinrearview]

Good vibration system is my priority, and Makita did not let me down in this regard,
7900. 6100, and 4300 saws, I was happy with the AV on all of them,
but Makita are going out of gas saw production by 2022.

AT would not be missed by me, but what are the options
with good AV, light weight and up to 4kw.

Are you production cutting? A new 7910 would last most folks a lifetime.

 

[Ford3000]

Are you production cutting? A new 7910 would last most folks a lifetime.

No, I need a saw that I can get parts for into the future, as I am not a production
cutter it will take me quite a while to get some payback from a saw, it will be here for a while
and then some.

 

[cuinrearview]

There will be parts for those for a good while I'd bet, from a dealer or ebay. It would be tough for a firewood hack to wear out a 7910

 

[Ford3000]

There will be parts for those for a good while I'd bet, from a dealer or ebay. It would be tough for a firewood hack to wear out a 7910

At this price over here, not many will be wearing them out, 940.00 Euro, bottom of page,
https://www.gosfordequipment.com/ourshop/prod_7049389-Dolmar-PS791045-79cc-18-24-28-Bar-Option.html

 

[woodfarmer]

I had a 565 briefly, nice smooth saw but kind of dull, had no snap to it

 

[Ford3000]

I had a 565 briefly, nice smooth saw but kind of dull, had no snap to it

I get that, think they just need the transferes cleaned out and retuned,
that would make a big difference, not sure if the new ones have the same
low top, which means a more restricted air filter too, and you need the whole boot
and carb mount and filter and high top to get over that, not an expensive thing to
do, but I would rather buy a 372 than bother with it.
Stock, they are 3.6kw, good enough for my needs, but I am closing in on a
deal for a Stihl MS400, which has a little more power too.

 

[woodfarmer]

Where did you find a 400?

 

[Ford3000]

Where did you find a 400?

Am in Ireland. the 400 is redily available, and in the UK and Northern Ireland.
Yet there is not a lot of them in the wild, I see they have been in Europe for longer,

 

[woodfarmer]

You’ll have to give us a full report after you’ve run it

 

[Ford3000]

You’ll have to give us a full report after you’ve run it

Well I would love to tell you all how I find the Stihl MS400.
But all I can tell you is, today I went to the dealers to give the one they had in stock an eye over,
which after waiting a half an hour a member of staff brough it out to me.

Nice saw without a doubt, I asked him to pull the cover so I could see all was well, nothing hanging off,
so onto next step, I said I would take it, and asked him to fire it up.
Saw dissapeared out into the workshop, he started it and revved the absolute crap out of it.

I walked over the man behind the counter in the showroom where I was, waiting,
I asked him had they got another MS400, he said he would look, and off he went.
Next up the guy that revved the saw flat out of came in, plopped the saw on the counter
and said there you go, I said not a hope, you started a cold new saw and revved the sh** out of it,
he said, I was clearing out the carburettor, I said, no engine should be revved flat out when its cold
and especially when its new, he said it would stop if he didnt rev it, I said am standing here a half
an hour and just witnessed the previous customer buying a saw, and heard it warm up for for over a minute, and after that it only recieved a few medium revs, and Two at full throttle.

Second time they did this to me in the process of buying a new saw, this time I walked out without the saw.
No way was I paying for a quite expensive new saw, and then be on the defending side of the you used the wrong fuel, or not enough oil in it saga.

Bloody ridicilios that they couldnt start a saw let it warm and then rev it, so much for trying to support the local dealer.

 

[huskyboy]

Well I would love to tell you all how I find the Stihl MS400.
But all I can tell you is, today I went to the dealers to give the one they had in stock an eye over,
which after waiting a half an hour a member of staff brough it out to me.

Nice saw without a doubt, I asked him to pull the cover so I could see all was well, nothing hanging off,
so onto next step, I said I would take it, and asked him to fire it up.
Saw dissapeared out into the workshop, he started it and revved the absolute crap out of it.

I walked over the man behind the counter in the showroom where I was, waiting,
I asked him had they got another MS400, he said he would look, and off he went.
Next up the guy that revved the saw flat out of came in, plopped the saw on the counter
and said there you go, I said not a hope, you started a cold new saw and revved the sh** out of it,
he said, I was clearing out the carburettor, I said, no engine should be revved flat out when its cold
and especially when its new, he said it would stop if he didnt rev it, I said am standing here a half
an hour and just witnessed the previous customer buying a saw, and heard it warm up for for over a minute,
and after that it only recieved a few medium revs, and Two at full throttle.

Second time they did this to me in the process of buying a new saw, this time I walked out without the saw.
No way was I paying for a quite expensive new saw, and then be on the defending side of the you used the
wroing fuel, or not enough oil in it saga.

Bloody ridicilios that they couldnt start a saw let it warm and then rev it, so much for trying to support the local dealer.

I can’t stand when people just go wfo on a cold saw. Give it a few blips and let it warm up for a second.... kind of common sense stuff really. Gotta let the metals get up to temperature and expand evenly.

 

[Ford3000]

I can’t stand when people just go wfo on a cold saw. Give it a few blips and let it warm up for a second.... kind of common sense stuff really.

My local dealer is so bad, I was actually praying going in the road to see the saw,
the guy before me got a different member of staff, and I was smiling when I heard
how his saw was started up, warmed up and revved up, I even said to the man,
that sound nice.

I could not believe my ears when I heard the other guy start what was to be my saw,
though all he talked about during my looking it over was the magnesium piston and
how quick they rev, I guess he was checking it out for himself, but not at my expense.

 

[Ford3000]

I will be buying one, but had to cancel the job I needed it for, I only do for friends,
heavy gardening and lighter tree work is all this body of mine can do, but that saw with the
power it has was giving me the opportunity to take down a few bigger trees without suffering from
using a heavy saw, its a lovely bit of kit, flips about with ease, and seemed nicely balanaced
with the 20" E bar that came on it, even with no fuel or oil.
Planned on getting a higher grade 18" bar for boring and when the extra
couple of inches would not be required.