Will Husqvarna ever go big again?.... (rumors, 390/395 successor)

[Skeans1]

That’s a lot of trucks to get rid of, I can’t see them getting rid or 07 and older truck, without a big fight, I have heard of them taking about it, but reality is they would have to buy them back, or people will loss it!! I don’t have an old diesel but I would make them buy it or I would fight to keep it!

We’ve been having one here in Oregon since last year, there’s a couple reasons a group called Timber Unity was started. Most of us in the industry are seeing the writing on the wall and upgrading the equipment and trucks as we can to stay in business, California did a retrofit program Oregon will not and will not help the business owner out that was already stated.


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[XP_Slinger]

Will be sad to see the big dogs go extinct on the dealer shelves, but in reality it won’t affect me at all. I rarely buy a new saw and there’s plenty out there to go around on the used market. Like most of you my hope is for a 588/590 variant on the 572 chassis. If that happens, I’d wager we won’t be missing the 390 too bad, maybe even the 395. Big and heavy just isn’t what most guys want anymore, the 462 and 500i have set a new bar (pun intended) in what folks value in a pro grade saw...high power in a lightweight chassis. All the new tech going into saws really makes them punch up a class when compared to older tech higher displacement saws imo.

I’m excited to see how big they go on the 572 chassis. 80cc will be a great start, but If someday they go with an 88cc jug n slug it will be a bad sombitch.

But I still have an urge to go buy a 395 before they’re gone...lol

 

[Manofstihl661]

Either a heavy pig or out of juice in a few cuts.
Just think about how heavy those high performance EV cars are.

Probably be like Stihl that has the backpack battery and run a cord to the saw. But I bet it’d be a heavy pig either way.

 

[Shanesaw80]

I'm not worried I have enough saws to last me

But does a guy really ever have enough lol. I have more then enough saws to last me a LONG time, and yet I keep buying more lol

 

[Nutball]

Some guy I worked with always told me he had a 595 at home, but he never would bring it to show me.

 

[mdavlee]

I knew a few guys in Canada got to test out a 85-90cc husky falling saw. They said it was barely bigger than the 372s and 572. But that’s been a couple years already.

 

[XP_Slinger]

It takes a few years to develope a saw. We got our two 572 test saws way back in Nov 2011, and look how long that took. Better to wait and get it right before launch, than to "get it tight" with a string of service bulletins after it's in the field.

100% agreed Bob.

 

[DrewUth]

As long as they continue supporting the older/existing models with replacement parts, whats the big deal? You get a proven saw without the EPA bull and all the new replacement parts you need to keep it going as long as you want.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

That’s the problem though, only will support a saw model so long. Been hearing Stihl is done making 066/ms660 parts this year. What’s left is left for new stuff and look how many years the 064/066 was out. If it wasn’t made as long as it was they probably would have stopped parts earlier.

 

[Spike60]

Whenever the topic of supporting older saws comes up, it often devolves into a sinister conspiracy theory along the lines of "they want to force you to buy a new saw". It's really nothing like that at all. They'd be just as happy to sell parts. As long as you are buying stuff, it's fine with them. There's no intentional effort to prevent us from keeping the old girls running.

What's going on here is that the support that guys like us would like to see go on forever doesn't make business sense out in the real saw world. Most guys on this site can keep just about any saw going as long as they can get the parts. But away from the hobby world the demand for old saw parts fades as the years go by, and there's little reason for companies to reproduce those parts after their inventories sell out. Many shops won't even work on older saws, or have techs that have ever seen some of them. You guys don't realize how far ahead of most saw techs you really are. LOL

As far as major work goes, very few people want to have 25 year old saws rebuilt by a shop and pay labor plus parts. They'd rather buy new. They'll pass on rebuilding a 262XP and buy a Rancher. Exceptions might be larger saws that cost more to replace, or "been in the family", "my first saw" type stuff. I always give a little extra TLC when a guy comes in and wants me to get "Dad's saw" up and running. But what does get frustrating is when you can't get something cheap and simple for a saw that otherwise runs fine. It's a shame to have to shelve a saw for a small part. But with a network like we have here, you can find most anything you need.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I fixed an 032 for a guy at work was bought for him by his dad. He would have paid the 250$ for a complete nos ignition but I fixed it with a chip been good two years now. Had the fuel system gone through by 3 dealers and nobody caught the dying after ignition got hot. Also whet to order parts for an ms 200t guy said not in the computer so must be old. I told him maybe 5-6 years he kinda called me a liar and from then on I just bring part numbers. He was able to find the 020t that day though. I also agree it’s more of the not enough of a model left to keep parts for it.

 

[Tor R]

To continue with what Bob said,
There isnt many saws Husqvarna didnt substitute with equal or better substitute.
For most customers that is key number 1.
There is a few models Husqvarna should had continued to produce parts for, they still do for 346, but not for 242.
Why I mention 346 is simple, its slim, good power, size is right between 242 - 550.
The day the 592-588 comes many will be happy, their lineup will be 592, 572, 562/560, 550. They defently need to develop a 542, and a 539 as well, special after the 550 gained a tad weight & seize.

 

[Funky sawman]

I've been told by high ups in stihl and husqvarna that their sole purpose is to sell new saws. I battled with this when I worked at several dealers, when I needed parts for newer saws and they went available.Dave zerfoss I think was his name with husqvarna just told me to tell customers to buy a new saw if the cylinder had any damage, that was on pro saws! The guy that JD at stihl NW answers to told ME were here to sell saws!

 

[huskyboy]

Can’t sell saws if no one will buy them . Have to introduce new saws that all the r/d bugs are worked out of if they want to sell any. Which they seem to have done with the 462, 572 and 550mk2.... so far so good. The 500i is an awesome machine. But at this point, it’s really a technical exercise to show off new fuel injection technology. I’m sure there will be teething problems.

 

[CR888]

I don't mind spending a few dollars on a good pro saw but I kinda have a phobia about spending close to $2K on an 500i and it not being reliable. You would be livid, dealer can't fix it, corporate says it seems fine are you using 50:1...meanwhile smoke is pouring out your ears as your wife reminds you not to strangle your dealer upon arrival. Its twisted I know, but I fear that. 395's & 660's don't flare the phobia, there a safe bet.

 

[Normzilla]

The 390 has been such a mainstay saw that I would certainly hope and think they would build a worthy saw of replacing it.

390 is my go too saw for almost everything. It handles anything, since I've owned it my 395 sits most the time except for real big wood, which the 390 handlesvtoo. Agreed the 390 should stay.

 

[Normzilla]

Unfortunately I'm inclined to believe this is likely true. The profit margin after development costs just wasn't there for Husqvarna, and the company focus has shifted to what is for now more profitable equipment. The lack of real dealers has really hurt the brand. Stopping the internet sales of pro saws was probably not the best idea either. Things sure have changed in the past 20 years.[emoji17]

Sadly it's looking more and more like Stihl will be the last of a dying breed, that is unless someone else steps in, likely an Asian manufacture. I really hope I'm wrong!!!

I can buy a husky on any corner, where are they hard to find? I can get one shipped from nearly anywhere. More Husky dealers around here than ever. Only thing Stihl
has going that's worthy is a 461 Imo. And if they ever discontinue it there market will collapse a bunch. There too saws too. Really I feel those are the only 2 saws that keep them alive. I wouldn't trade my 390co for anything they make. But I'd buy a 461 any day.

 

[Normzilla]

I'm keen on what they come up with in the 80cc range. It would be very unfortunate if they didn't continue development on the larger saws.

Agreed. And it was a shame they let the 181 go, and left an open door for the 046 class.

 

[woodfarmer]

What will happen to the larger Redmax saws?