What's on your bench?

[usmcbuckwild]

50:1 with limiter caps?

Yup

 

[usmcbuckwild]

Left a ridge around the outer edge of the band?

That was going to be my guess.

 

[MG porting]

50:1 with limiter caps?

Exactly!

 

[Bigmac]

I don’t think an almost brand new 461 piston is supposed to look like this....

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I have seen a bunch of 461 like that, extremely worn on the intake skirt, I thought they were sucking dirt!

 

[huskyboy]

I have seen a bunch of 461 like that, extremely worn on the intake skirt, I thought they were sucking dirt!

Looks like exhaust side in his picture if I’m not mistaken

 

[Bigmac]

Looks like exhaust side in his picture if I’m not mistaken

That’s the intake! The notch is on the exhaust side

 

[huskyboy]

That’s the intake! The notch is on the exhaust side

EDIT: yup intake side, sorry guys.

 

[huskyboy]

372 xt looks like that on the intake side too after not too long, happens less with 40:1 vs 50:1.

 

[Bigmac]

EDIT: yup intake side, sorry guys.

No worries, the weird thing is it seems like a lot of them do that right off the bat and then look the same way after many hours of run time! Not sure if it’s dirt or what?

 

[usmcbuckwild]

Yes, intake side. Had me concered. I made sure to beverl the intake port and radius the bottom of the skirt a little to keep it from catching anything.

 

[Bigmac]

Yes, intake side. Had me concered. I made sure to beverl the intake port and radius the bottom of the skirt a little to keep it from catching anything.

It makes you wonder what the cause is, oil, warm up prosess, clearance issues or fines! Or what?

 

[usmcbuckwild]

It makes you wonder what the cause is, oil, warm up prosess, clearance issues or fines! Or what?

I think it has been debated in depth.

 

[huskyboy]

Just a question to brew over for you guys, when’s the last time you saw a tree service guy tune a saw? Go as far to delete limiters? Some run crappy gas mix with 50:1... most of the time there chains aren’t the best either and the saws abused... add all these things up and it makes it hard to determine if it’s a flaw with the product or just abuse.

 

[usmcbuckwild]

Just a question to brew over for you guys, when’s the last time you saw a tree service guy tune a saw? Go as far to delete limiters? Some run crappy gas mix with 50:1... most of the time there chains aren’t the best either and the saws abused... add all these things up and it makes it hard to really determine if it’s a flaw with the product or just abuse.

From what I have found, most tree guys either continue to use a crappy running saw or just toss it to the side and grab another. The others attempt to adjust and screw it up royally.

I remember working with a logging company years ago the main cutters would make minor adjustments throughout the day to compensate for wide temperature swings (30-40 in the AM reaching 70s by mid day). I was actually talking about this with my neighbor’s FIL (who is visiting for the birth of the neighbor’s baby next week). He worked for logging companies in Oregon/Washington/Alaska and said they would have to make tune adjustments as they went further up the mountain for elevation. Start out in the valley and work their way up to the peak. I’ve never been in the mountains out there but I can see how that is feasible.

 

[huskyboy]

From what I have found, most tree guys either continue to use a crappy running saw or just toss it to the side and grab another. The others attempt to adjust and screw it up royally.

I remember working with a logging company years ago the main cutters would make minor adjustments throughout the day to compensate for wide temperature swings (30-40 in the AM reaching 70s by mid day). I was actually talking about this with my neighbor’s FIL (who is visiting for the birth of the neighbor’s baby next week). He worked for logging companies in Oregon/Washington/Alaska and said they would have to make tune adjustments as they went further up the mountain for elevation. Start out in the valley and work their way up to the peak. I’ve never been in the mountains out there but I can see how that is feasible.

I noticed loggers take better care of there saws usually. We cut a lot more wood so it makes sense.

 

[Dub11]

I noticed loggers take better care of there saws usually. We cut a lot more wood so it makes sense.

Well you get paid by the stick not by the hour.

 

[huskyboy]

Well you get paid by the stick not by the hour.

I get paid by the hour, but yeah lot of other loggers get paid by the bd ft.

 

[MG porting]

Just a question to brew over for you guys, when’s the last time you saw a tree service guy tune a saw? Go as far to delete limiters? Some run crappy gas mix with 50:1... most of the time there chains aren’t the best either and the saws abused... add all these things up and it makes it hard to determine if it’s a flaw with the product or just abuse.

Yea the only time they good gas and carburetors tuned is when they bring them in to get parts replaced there hard on chains big time I don't sharpin chains for them anymore they can figure out how to do that crap themselves.

 

[MG porting]

From what I have found, most tree guys either continue to use a crappy running saw or just toss it to the side and grab another. The others attempt to adjust and screw it up royally.

I remember working with a logging company years ago the main cutters would make minor adjustments throughout the day to compensate for wide temperature swings (30-40 in the AM reaching 70s by mid day). I was actually talking about this with my neighbor’s FIL (who is visiting for the birth of the neighbor’s baby next week). He worked for logging companies in Oregon/Washington/Alaska and said they would have to make tune adjustments as they went further up the mountain for elevation. Start out in the valley and work their way up to the peak. I’ve never been in the mountains out there but I can see how that is feasible.

Yep I'm in WA and it's common sense to bring your tools you can tune your carb at home but you'll be doing it again when you get up at the landing sight. Lol

 

[usmcbuckwild]

Got another 461 done.



Test fire and cut tomorrow.