What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Windthrown]

i buy durex brand at the dealer it comes out of a barrel and has red dye in it $5.00 per gallon plus tax.

Durex here is $9.99 a gallon and what I used to use before I flipped to Canola. It used to be $6 a gallon. All these cheap prices listed for bar oil... not that way here in the PNW any more.

Does that mean it's good oil or just cheap garbage?

It is actually good oil. 30 wt, non detergent, red dye, tacky.

 

[huskihl]

Durex here is $9.99 a gallon and what I used to use before I flipped to Canola. It used to be $6 a gallon. All these cheap prices listed for bar oil... not that way here in the PNW any more.



It is actually good oil. 30 wt, non detergent, red dye, tacky.

Canola here is like $6-$8 /half gallon. Probably half the reason so many where you're at use it. Here, bar oil is 1/4 that price

 

[Windthrown]

Before I used Durex, I used mostly Poulan which was also good bar oil that I could get in Eugene for $4 a gallon. The cheap Poulan source dried up so I tried WalMart bar oil, but the oil seemed to be too highly variable in viscosity, tack and flow in the 3 or 4 gallons that I ran. So I flipped to Durex that they sell at Bi-Mart here in the PNW.

 

[Windthrown]

Canola here is like $6-$8 /half gallon. Probably half the reason so many where you're at use it. Here, bar oil is 1/4 that price

Canola at WalMart here is $5.40 a gallon (bought a few last week on sale). Nationally/online today, canola oil is $5.96 a gallon at WalMart:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Canola-Oil-1-gal/13281828

 

[Terry Syd]

I went out to the shed to fill the saws. I thought I remembered to put two-stroke oil in the one big container, but I didn't have a positive recollection. No problem I thought, I'd just put some mix in a jar and compare it to a jar of straight petrol.

I couldn't tell the difference. - So I mixed up a batch at 33/1 (150cc oil to 5 litres fuel) and then checked them again - I still couldn't tell the difference. There was a bit of haze in the two-stroke mix, but not enough difference for my taste.

The oil I was using was a good CD rated oil (Binorm from the local Co-op) that I've been using for a while. However, after that experience, I want to find an oil that will tell me without any question that I have two-stroke oil in the mix.

The stuff I was using had a slight green tint to it, but when I mixed it with the red dyed petrol, the colour was neutralised. I've been using this stuff for about 6 months and it has been great oil, but now I want something that will tell me flat out that it is pre-mix.

Good Gawd, I would hate to post that I straight gassed one of my saws....

Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone did a similar test with clear jars to make sure they can recognize their mix.

We can waffle on for hours about the 'best' oil, however they all work - but without the oil....

 

[mdavlee]

So I've been following this thread, and I'm not feeling too warm and fuzzy about the oil I am currently running (ultra 40:1). I think I'm going to switch over to klotz from what I'm seeing here. I was gonna go for the original techniplate then I ran across klotz kl198 techniplate lite. Any thoughts on it? Anyone ran it? The only info I see about it is that it's a lighter version of the original techniplate. Link:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=13&ved=0ahUKEwiDpamzucHLAhUFmR4KHfOsBlg4ChAWCC0wAg&url=http://www.summitracing.com/parts/klz-kl-198&usg=AFQjCNGsjmaaDppeKQCSdZdmMmaM12e5Rw&sig2=jUMAx5IS1JwJlYUopPMztQ

A few people tried it when it came out. It was made with airplanes in mind if I remember right.

 

[jk14]

You are correct. I just spoke to klotz and they said the kl198 was developed for tight tolerance rc engines. They recommended kl100

 

[huskihl]

I went out to the shed to fill the saws. I thought I remembered to put two-stroke oil in the one big container, but I didn't have a positive recollection. No problem I thought, I'd just put some mix in a jar and compare it to a jar of straight petrol.

I couldn't tell the difference. - So I mixed up a batch at 33/1 (150cc oil to 5 litres fuel) and then checked them again - I still couldn't tell the difference. There was a bit of haze in the two-stroke mix, but not enough difference for my taste.

The oil I was using was a good CD rated oil (Binorm from the local Co-op) that I've been using for a while. However, after that experience, I want to find an oil that will tell me without any question that I have two-stroke oil in the mix.

The stuff I was using had a slight green tint to it, but when I mixed it with the red dyed petrol, the colour was neutralised. I've been using this stuff for about 6 months and it has been great oil, but now I want something that will tell me flat out that it is pre-mix.

Good Gawd, I would hate to post that I straight gassed one of my saws....

Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone did a similar test with clear jars to make sure they can recognize their mix.

We can waffle on for hours about the 'best' oil, however they all work - but without the oil....

Usually you can feel it between your finger and thumb as to whether or not there's oil mixed in

 

[Keith Gandy]

Interested to try these 2. Thanks Brian!!

 

[wildroamer]

I was a bit surprised to read in my Solo manual that they recommend 25:1 for first 5 tanks.

 

[CoreyB]

I am on my 3rd gallon sense January and I will finish that up this weekend and probably my 4th. All on the very fuel efficient Dolmar 6100 and Ms 192. However that is just so I can join in the discussion. (Feeling left out)
On topic I have switched from 50:1 to 43:1. 3oz per gallon. Seen to run real good. Only extra smoke I get is on start up it has a bit bigger puff of smoke on start up.

 

[junkman]

Interested to try these 2. Thanks Brian!!View attachment 15399

I am curious how they compare as well ,those 2 seem to have the least offensive exhaust smell i have found so far also .

 

[Ron660]

Interested to try these 2. Thanks Brian!!View attachment 15399

What saws are you're going to use in that oil test (390 & hybrid)? Also, I'm guessing you're going to clean the piston crown before trying each oil. Are you checking for lube in the lower end and piston crown appearance?

 

[Keith Gandy]

What saws are you're going to use in that oil test (390 & hybrid)? Also, I'm guessing you're going to clean the piston crown before trying each oil. Are you checking for lube in the lower end and piston crown appearance?

I just ported the 550 and gonna use the dumonde, hybrid just ported and gonna use mobil 1, 372xp after porting will get Klotz kl100. All will be clean and then torn back down. John and I have a huge redoak to cutdown when he is back from Portland that will burn up several gallons of fuel. 60+ " tree

 

[jmssaws]

Sounds like you need a bigger saw!
Want to borrow my 95 and a 36"?

 

[Keith Gandy]

I have my 064 too but John has a 066 amd an 064 also and I think he still has 1 of the 088s. Id like to cut with the 088 before he sells her

 

[Windthrown]

You must be a big feller to use an 088. I ran one once, or rather, it ran me. My 660 is manageable as was my 395. The 880? The vibration is insanely high at over 7.5 m/s*s for the top and back handles. It will shake the fillings out of your teeth.

 

[jmssaws]

I've had 2 880s and a 084. Even ported they ain't super impressive.

 

[stihl saws]

If my 660 or 064 can't cut it, I'll just walk away. I picked up a 088 once. Never had anymore desire for one. Maybe if I were on the left coast.

 

[mdavlee]

088 isn't bad for bucking. I wouldn't want to carry it or a 3120 far through the woods.