What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

Sans the Esters

I like the idea of the ester molecules adhering to the surfaces but not sure what they used in the new concoction but its working

 

[porsche965]

I've never see the winner on a podium waving an oil flag. As stated, results are all that matter.

Test on.

 

[porsche965]

If esters are the benchmark in the oil world, that RA engineer deserves an award putting together a package that perhaps does beat an ester oil.

That said I wonder if esters are easier on the body to breathe than their replacement?

 

[full chizel]

I’m curious how Super M would do. It’s 60% K2 and 40% mineral.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Another twist to this. I asked the Amsoil tech, via email, why the Saber percentages only added up to 56% even if ingredients were at listed maximums. Here is his answer....


All ingredients that are required to be reported due to their hazard classifications appear on our SDSs. Section 3 of US compliant SDSs is not a full material disclosure list; only hazardous ingredients and a range of their relative concentrations are required to be reported, as per OSHA Hazcom 2012.

I saw absolutely O evidence in using their product or your current test to persuade my decision in using their product. Results speak for themselves. Seems theres alot better choices for the money

 

[Keith Gandy]

Dominator might prove to be far superior to Saber and should be. We will see. I'm not dismissing Amsoil, just the Saber.

Im not impressed with Amsoil. I think its alota smoke screening and lipstick on a pig

 

[Keith Gandy]

As far as 2 stroke oil goes, I'm on the fence. Automotive and other equipment oils, I've found no better for our cars and equipment, in our environment and how we use them. I don't even do UOA anymore. I just change it yearly on the engines.

I use the Vavoline Full Synthetic Modern Engine 5w30 in this F150 2.7l Twin Turbo with great results. I also run a JLT catch can on the motor

 

[Keith Gandy]

Valvoline is good stuff from things I've read and what little I've used some of their synthetics. Another that is supposed to be goid is the pensoil made from natural gas. Platinum?

Yes Ive read the same . Engine oils are interesting also. Most upper end oils use high zinc and esters also

 

[Czed]

YES... So true. We're all in search of this magic oil. But in fact many oils will do the same thing.
50:1, properly tuned, with all good preventative maintenance done and good chain will serve you well for many many years.

With that said, these tests are still cool. Cool to see just what happens to both Weedeater and oil at these diminished ratios...[emoji106]

50/1 has made me a lot of money rebuilding
Saws
Please continue to advise other's to run it.

 

[Keith Gandy]

50/1 has made me a lot of money rebuilding
Saws
Please continue to advise other's to run it.

50to1 tuned properly should be enough? Id want alil extra if milling Id think

 

[full chizel]

When i had a Ram 2500 with 6.4 Hemi i used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and would change the oil on 2% on the OCI. Pulling a 36” 5th wheel camper and daily driving i could get 8000-8500 miles. Tried Mobil 1 Extended Performance and got 6200 miles. Next change was Ultra Plat again and got 8300 miles. YMMV... pun intended

 

[full chizel]

50/1 has made me a lot of money rebuilding
Saws
Please continue to advise other's to run it.

50:1 is plenty if tuned right but not much margin for error.

 

[Czed]

50:1 is plenty if tuned right but not much margin for error.

Tell your friends
Tell everyone.

 

[Czed]

50to1 tuned properly should be enough? Id want alil extra if milling Id think

Tell your friends
Tell everyone.

 

[full chizel]

Tell your friends
Tell everyone.

Will do

 

[Czed]

Will do

Make sure everyone advises
Stihl ultra as the best oil.

 

[full chizel]

Make sure everyone advises
Stihl ultra as the best oil.

I’m not going that far

 

[Czed]

I’m not going that far

It's recommended for their bestest saws.

 

[full chizel]

It's recommended for their bestest saws.

Not mine

 

[Czed]

Not mine

Stihl spent literally hundreds of dollars
On stihl ultra development.