What oil is best? and what ratio?

[RI Chevy]

LMAO

 

[Keith Gandy]

Exactly. He is not very supportive of my efforts it appears. I may have to rethink our relationship.

Explain to him that if the Stihl survives 300 to1 its a worthy unit

 

[RI Chevy]

YES...[emoji1787]
Take that Stihl where no man has ever gone before. Lol

 

[rogue60]

Cut the cooling fan fins off the flywheels of these wed eaters or block the cooling air intake off to speed this testing up will still get same results just faster.
Load keeps engines happy as has been said I think? I'd also like to see one run with no line free spooling see how it holds up with no load? kind of the same as a saw with a really dull chain making only smoke no load as you see on YouTube lol

 

[full chizel]

I'll text him today. I'll tell him 100:1 test underway on the Stihl. He does own a gun shop. Maybe I shouldn't

Does he have a good deal on 9mm ammo?

 

[RI Chevy]

Lol.
And some military surplus .308 and .223? 1000 round cases preferred. NATO spec...[emoji2957]

 

[full chizel]

Not sure he has any left atm.

Nobody does, just bought the gun so no pants down. I rarely wear any though

 

[rogue60]

I wish I had done the foil wrap from the start. Now I feel I must continue the same way to try to keep it consistent.

The free rev till death will be happening on the Huskihl seafoam test unit, after I filthify it and then seafoam the daylights oot of it. Then it's set up phone on record, zip tie the trigger and walk away. No spool on it at all.

I was just thinking out loud I think most chainsaws that fail not talking the ones that are straight gased but the abused one's with dull chains screaming it's mits off no constant load making more heat than the engine was designed for over heating.
That's when the not so good 50:1 oil starts to fail allowing metal to metal contact not just the top end but bottom end to.
That's my take on it lol

 

[Evansaw]

What are we looking at? Piston crown im pretty sure. What oil? What ratio? This information is pertinent to people's emotional well-being ya know.

661 masterminded amsoiled at 1:32

more pics in my thread " tore apart my 661"

 

[rogue60]

To answer why some run more oil than the bottle says.
I can only answer for myself but age would be the main one you won't find a 20 year old now days running more oil than 60:1 in his mx bike and he will be very happy with getting 25hrs out of the crank thinking that's normal.
For us older guy's before oil was evil and living through the 80's 90's when 2T mx bikes where the thing and every bit of ope was a 2T you even mixed gas as a little kid to mow the lawn.
Anyway I personly seen many dyno test in mx mags all about oil in the 90's
Out of them dyno runs with 20:1 to 50:1 every time more oil made more power better ring seal and as a side effect more oil also made for longer engine life.
It's not cut and dry if an engine is babied not worked hard it doesn't need as much oil if thrashed hard it needs more oil dont racing go karts run 16:1 or something being run flat out the hole race.
Oil is complicated I don't make it anymore complicated I just run basic oil at 20:1 25:1 and 32:1 depends what im doing and running it in have never lost a 2T engine to an oil problem never even seized one in my time.
And yes for the guy's that like to point out more oil its lean! Lol we all know this changing mix ratio you need to tune as we do it's ok.
Just my 2c.

 

[RI Chevy]

Steal power vs. Better low end bearing lubrication? Another interesting variable.
#tradeoffs

 

[mdavlee]

Steal power vs. Better low end bearing lubrication? Another interesting variable.
#tradeoffs

If only someone had a dyno....

 

[full chizel]

If only someone had a dyno....

Red97 just built one.

 

[Evansaw]

Based on others experience with various oils in different sizes of ope cc wise, it appears there is not a one size fits all on oil as well. Where the saber looks filthy in this trimmer, you and others I've seen pics of are clean. Same with Stihl oil according to Mr.Gandy. smaller saws are all forkin nasty from it, biguns are clean. Damn you oil gods. Why all the twists and turns.......

Soon I ll also open my two 261s also monkeyed by Randy and see how they went. One was a mule runned everything even castor oil the other just Sabered around

 

[ammoaddict]

Running 2 stroke bikes in the 80's is probably where I got my more oil deal. My yz was 20:1. Then that Homelite saw incident on their 50:1 oil locking up on the second tank is another reason I tend to run no less than 40:1. I'll be trying the red armor at 50:1 in my trimmers and blowers for now. The ported saw is currently on a diet of VP 94 with 40:1 Amsoil Dominator. My vintage saws are also getting the 50:1 RA mix. I have a couple of beater saws that will have the saber as there oil till gone. Then who knows. It's going to be RA, Dominator or Maybe K2 for me but leaning heavy into RA and could still end up running 40:1 across the board. Time will tell.

Is dominator good in chainsaws and blowers? I can get dominator at Rural King but they don't carry saber. I thought about try it when I need more oil, thought about Lucas as well.

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[sawmikaze]

Is dominator good in chainsaws and blowers? I can get dominator at Rural King but they don't carry saber. I thought about try it when I need more oil, thought about Lucas as well.

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From what I understand it protects well but isn't great for long term storage, but I'm sure the conditions it's stored in make all the difference, I talked to a dude that has a small logging gig that uses it on the regular. He says it's good *s-word.

 

[mdavlee]

Red97 just built one.

I was being sarcastic but it did cross my mind to throw in some money for dyno time to test some oils and ratios when he wants to mess with it. I’m thinking of sending him a stock 2188 to baseline and he could keep it a while to test that

 

[mdavlee]

From what I understand it protects well but isn't great for long term storage, but I'm sure the conditions it's stored in make all the difference, I talked to a dude that has a small logging gig that uses it on the regular. He says it's good *s-word.

I’ve seen pictures of rust on cranks with it, and a few other water based oils like motul 800 if you leave them with the piston up and the crank case open to air.

 

[sawmikaze]

I’ve seen pictures of rust on cranks with it, and a few other water based oils like motul 800 if you leave them with the piston up and the crank case open to air.

How were they stored?

 

[ammoaddict]

From what I understand it protects well but isn't great for long term storage, but I'm sure the conditions it's stored in make all the difference, I talked to a dude that has a small logging gig that uses it on the regular. He says it's good *s-word.

I had read the interceptor oil was good but not recommended for storage in boat motors. I didn't know about the dominator.

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