What oil is best? and what ratio?

[smokey7]

Ive seen first hand myself what extra oil within reason and turned properly does for the life of any 2 cycle engine. One of my customers has a metric ton of 2 cycle stuff atleast 20 1000 watt 2 cycle gennies 10 post hole diggers probably 50 weedwoppers/stick edgers 50 leaf blowers handheld and backpack frobably 75 chainsaws from 200t on up to 660s and 395s. This guy was bringing me 10 pieces a week for the last few years. He had been buying the wallmart cheap tcw2 by the gallon and running it 50:1 up to 100:1 when guys didnt pay attention fo them mixing 2 gallons and not 1 gallon. Now i have him buying redmax oil by the 5 gallon bucket and its actually cheaper so he is running 4oz to the gallon now. I no longer get 10 units a week with woreout topends and bearing failures. Im lucky if i get 5 units a month and maybe 1 of them had a scuffed piston or bad bearings. Not good for my side business but he cant believe that adding 1.4oz more oil per gallon of gas made that much difference to the life of his stuff. Im sure if he stuck with the wally world oil he wouldve seen similar results but figured he is getting better oil and its better suited to his application (air cooled oil for air cooled stuff) and its cheaper per oz. So now redmax oil is going up $34 per 5 gallons of oil where he buys it so i got him to buy 5 gallon jugs of citgo air cooled oil to poor into his 5 gallon bucket and use the same bucket pump amm of his guys are now used to using. Ive found that is so close and repeatable that it pumps 4 oz per pump. It makes it really nice for guys to mix. 1 full pump is enough for 1 gallon of gas. Id also love for him to run rec gas but as its .30-.80 cents higher per gallon i highly doubt ge will ever consider it as a viable option.

 

[CR888]

After 700 pages we have a major fact about oil that we can agree on....good oil is good, more good oil is gooder.

 

[Dub11]

After 700 pages we have a major fact about oil that we can agree on....good oil is good, more good oil is gooder.

Ah yes but can the more gooder oil fix bad gas?

 

[Ron660]

Knew a logger 25 yrs. ago went through a Husky (don't remember size) falling saw every six mo. @50:1 Husky oil. Went to 25:1 was stilling falling w/same saw for six years.
Shep

Same deal with another Logger I know using 372's. He went from 50:1 to 32:1 or 38:1. They use to last less than one year. Now 2+ yrs.

 

[ranchdadmike]

Ah yes but can the more gooder oil fix bad gas?

No. Only thing I’ve found that fixes bad gas is pepto-bismol.

 

[Dub11]

No. Only thing I’ve found that fixes bad gas is pepto-bismol.

What ratio?

 

[ranchdadmike]

What ratio?

32:1

 

[Leafy]

Is this stuff any good? It was in my dads shed, wondering if those pull tab cans are actually worth something.

And WTF why cant I post imgur links any more.

 

[Terry Syd]

I'd run it. Hell, I used to race bikes in the desert back in the 70s with Pennzoil air-cooled two-stroke oil at 32-1. A piped engine without fan cooling going full bore up hot desert sand washes - no problems. I expect that Pennzoil and others have improved their formulas in the last 40 years.

A three hour desert race could put a bit of thermal loading on an engine, much more than a few bucking cuts.

I wonder what that old Pennzoil was rated at in today's ratings, maybe a FA or FB?

 

[Bigmac]

It been a few years back but when I was doing lots of research on banshee drag motor stuff, some guys were testing oil ratios on the dyno, and they were still making more power even to 16-1, more oil is more better! And engine life would probably be much better as well!

 

[tree monkey]

drain oil mixed 1/1, one jug, put it in both tanks

 

[Bigmac]

drain oil mixed 1/1, one jug, put it in both tanks

Makes things simple! I like simple!

 

[Dub11]

drain oil mixed 1/1, one jug, put it in both tanks

Gas or diesel or axle drain oil?

 

[tree monkey]

 

[tree monkey]

oil is oil
$20 is $20

 

[Willard]

As mentioned earlier about USA Stihl mix blended by Omni Speciality out of Louisiana.

I'm posting pics here of our Canadian Stihl Premium orange bottle mix with the Castrol logo and 32:1 40:1 50:1.

 

[Willard]

Here's our Canada Castrol Super 2 Stroke still sold today at Canadian Tire.
Bottle and label have changed a bit since the 1970s.
Notice the chainsaw on the label.
Not for motorcycles, snowmobiles or outboard motors.

 

[RI Chevy]

Hmmm. Cool. I wonder why it is not available in the USA?

 

[Willard]

That lawnmower on the label must be one of those old green 2 stroke Lawn Boy's.
My first lawnmower in 1979 was a lawn boy.

 

[Leafy]

Hmmm. Cool. I wonder why it is not available in the USA?

My best guess involves 3 letters.