What oil is best? and what ratio?

[huskihl]

Lucas may not be the best in a snowmoblie, but in OPE its more than good enough.

I agree. I've seen what the cheapest of the cheap oil does to chainsaws and concrete saws. Nothing

 

[huskihl]

Before anybody gives me any crap for that, it was a bit sarcastic. And a call out to bwalker to see if he's still bandaided or not lol

 

[RonL]

I have to laugh. Just found this place and registered. Brand new forum and it already has an oil thread with 62 pages!

For the record, I'm using Motul 710 2t mixed with Sunoco Optima at 32 to 1. Known good gas mixed with known good oil. That's the crux of the matter.

RonL

 

[Ozarker]

I have to laugh. Just found this place and registered. Brand new forum and it already has an oil thread with 62 pages!

For the record, I'm using Motul 710 2t mixed with Sunoco Optima at 32 to 1. Known good gas mixed with known good oil. That's the crux of the matter.

RonL

Nuh-uh! 'Tain't so! That mix is triflin'! Let's you and him fight about it!

 

[junkman]

I have to laugh. Just found this place and registered. Brand new forum and it already has an oil thread with 62 pages!

For the record, I'm using Motul 710 2t mixed with Sunoco Optima at 32 to 1. Known good gas mixed with known good oil. That's the crux of the matter.

RonL

Everyone quit using thatix 40 pages ago ,you are way behind now

 

[junkman]

what do you guys think about the RPM break down #s ? Sounds like that is the point at where they think the oil started to break down? Anyone know how to measure that?

our saws will not break down any of the oils on that list i bet ,that chart is for sleds

 

[the GOAT]

our saws will not break down any of the oils on that list i bet ,that chart is for sleds

Incredible post. Just like the ms362c-m type II.

 

[huskihl]

emailed andrew at belray regarding that test... sounds like it's very well known that the dude that did the test and the test it self was bogus.

me:

http://www.legendperformance.com/media/2StrokeAnalysis.pdf


ever see this test? I know it’s snowmobile stuff. But it’s interesting. The RPM break down # is interesting to me. How would you test that?
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Julian,

Haha that brings back some fond memories. “The Chemist” as he was called was a complete hack. He was a fake through and through and his testing was total BS. He claimed he had a microscope that he could use to not only see individual molecules but to also measure molecule size and differentiate between synthetic and petroleum molecules by looking at them.


He also would never provide any proof of his numbers or how his testing was actually done. After only about a week or two or people questioning his methods and asking for proof, he basically ran away and no one has heard from him since. His best evidence of the legitimacy of his testing apparatus (which were all homemade by the way) was that his cousin who worked at NASA helped him to build it. If you look into him and his testing, especially on bobistheoilguy.com, you’ll find references to him and his “testing”.


Sorry to burst your bubble on what you probably thought was a good reference, but all signs pointed to it being complete BS back then and no new information ever came about to change anyone’s mind since then.


Supposedly the RPM breakdown was the RPM at which the oil’s viscosity would breakdown. He claimed some sort of software calculated it during the test, although I have no earthly idea how he could have managed to take samples, measure or control the machine in such a test.




AndrewHodges, OMA I
Product Line Manager, Powersports Division | Bel-Ray Company, LLC

Woo hoooo! Go Lucas and Citgo lol

 

[RonL]

Everyone quit using thatix 40 pages ago ,you are way behind now

I'm only up to page 40. I keep having flashbacks.

 

[junkman]

I'm only up to page 40. I keep having flashbacks.

Last i checked hp2 was up on top

 

[Keith Gandy]

Im liking Klotz Super Techniplate. Smells good burning too and mixes easily

 

[RonL]

Funny thing is I was on BITOG, deeply immersed in studying two cycle oil, when that guy was posting his "research". He talked about measuring the size of molecules. The kind of guy that when he starts talking to you, you look at your watch and say: "welp, I gotta go" and back away.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Funny thing is I was on BITOG, deeply immersed in studying two cycle oil, when that guy was posting his "research". He talked about measuring the size of molecules. The kind of guy that when he starts talking to you, you look at your watch and say: "welp, I gotta go" and back away.

Im interested to hear what u concluded about oils from the research. We have discussed on AS molecule size and tuning effects

 

[RonL]

LOL! And it comes full circle once again.

 

[CR500]

Oil threads my favorite lol.


Well I purchased a 661 arctic and with that said I figured a new oil is on my bucket list. I've ran a few tanks of Torco GP7 and it seems prettt good so far

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[CoreyB]

Obviously nobody has mentioned dolmar synthetic or else this thread would be over by now!

 

[Ron660]

Lately I've been using Motul 800 off-road at 24:1, w/93 non-E, in my 021, 660, and 372. They like it.

 

[smokey7]

Holy crap that's alot of oil!

 

[bikemike]

Lucas 100.1. They stand behind it and say they will replace the engine if there is a failure. I'm a 40.1 guy myself with good oils. Plugs are cheeper than engine's

 

[smokey7]

I agree but I am doing a torture test with am soil at 100:1 on a saw and blower. So far I'm shocked how well it's doing. It burns well at a very wide range of ratios.