What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

I never really gave that stuff a chance. I ran a couple of quarts of it, and it left a plastic like deposit on the crown of the piston. Maybe I didn't run it hard enough?

I hated the smell of it though........that sealed the deal.

Try kl200

 

[bwalker]

It seems an oil made for oil injection would be thinner also than a pre-mix oil ,which would make the ope run richer than it was designed for, also leaving a lot of unburnt buildup around the exhaust port and other areas .

Yea, it's thinner and the solvents used in marine oils are usually of the high flash point variety which leads to bad smell, deposits and wonky tuning.

 

[CoreyB]

Stihl and Amsoil FTW!!

I really like the 192. I have a rear handle version. Such a great little trail saw, limbing.

 

[bwalker]

I've ran more super technoplate than any other oil.

I run it in my bikes and am using it in my cr500 currently. If your jetting is absolutely on point and you load it enough it can burn clean. It still doesn't burn clean like non castor blend oil. Here is a pic of my exhaust often burning four gallons riding and testing yesterday. It's dry and combusting well as it can. The plug does show evidence of the castor though, even after four gallons.

 

[Mastermind]

Try kl200

Nope. I'm not into playing the oil game brother. The Yamalube tunes right in both the standard and electronic saws. Protects well, is easy to get, and like I said, the color matches my panties.

 

[bwalker]

I never really gave that stuff a chance. I ran a couple of quarts of it, and it left a plastic like deposit on the crown of the piston. Maybe I didn't run it hard enough?

I hated the smell of it though........that sealed the deal.

It will do that no doubt. I do disagree on the smell though..I would wear it for cologne!

 

[junkman]

I've been running Yamalube 2R since Ben suggested it to me. I stick with it because of the purple color.

Have you tried the blue stuff i sent yet ,tuning seems a little more forgiving in my opinion over the 2r i was running .

 

[jmssaws]

The smell is the only reason I've used it.

I can get Walmart,lucas,valvoline, rp,klotz of any flavor local. Which of these junkers do I use?

 

[bwalker]

The smell is the only reason I've used it.

I can get Walmart,lucas,valvoline, rp,klotz of any flavor local. Which of these junkers do I use?

OF those options I would chose Lucas or better yet 2R. You have to have a Yamaha dealer in hour area?

 

[Mastermind]

Have you tried the blue stuff i sent yet ,tuning seems a little more forgiving in my opinion over the 2r i was running .

The Amsoil?

No. I'll use it when I run out of Yamalube though.

 

[junkman]

The Amsoil?

No. I'll use it when I run out of Yamalube though.

Yes the saber ,at 32 to 1 it seems to tune better at least in my hybrid saw it did ,i do not have any auto tunes to try ,i have gone to 40 to 1 because i use the same fuel in all my ope equipment just to keep thing simple .I used to be total anti amsoil because of their marketing ,but it actually works ok in a saw ,seems to free up a little hidden power over the bike oils i have used .

 

[Mastermind]

I have a friend that I trust completely.......his opinion is gold to me. He uses Amsoil at 60:1, swears it makes more power than any other oil at that ratio.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I really like the 192. I have a rear handle version. Such a great little trail saw, limbing.

I like it too after I advanced the timing 6° and opened up the exhaust. I use it for trimming when my 201T is too much. It'll hang with the 201T up to about 6"

 

[bwalker]

Ive been running Klotz in dirtbikes along time Ben. Liked it then as well as now and alot can be concluded in a few gallons. I know for a fact kl100 can stick a ring in as little as 1 gallon. Did it take years to conclude that? Definetely not and if I hadnt torn the saw down when I did it woulda eventaully been catastrophic. Oil related failure? Yes or may have been an autotune issue ? Not sure

Kl100 is kl2oo with 2o% benol. I think you probably had other issues that stuck that ring and I am not an advocate at all of running kl100 or anything with castor in it through a chainsaw.
Differences in oil take time to manifest themselves and I have been observing for years. I will provide an example. When Redline oil first started to take off I ran a bunch of it through bikes and sleds. I thought at the time it was great stuff. Very clean and very resistant to seizure in race motors. However, after a few years I discovered it rusted the hell out of my snowmobiles crank and it corroded my bikes brass jets so bad they where black.
IIRC the criteria you evaluated kl200 on was based in part by how much residual you observed. Your observation wasn't valid because many things other than oil cause what you observed, yet you attributed it to the oil. I would also point out that by Klotz own admission kl200 isn't their top of the line product. Not saying it's good oil, it very well may be. What I am saying is your criteria for evaluating it where flawed aconclusion conclusion are premature.

 

[bwalker]

I have a friend that I trust completely.......his opinion is gold to me. He uses Amsoil at 60:1, swears it makes more power than any other oil at that ratio.

That less oil makes more power has been discredited many times. Amsoil might make more power at 60:1 vs something like 32:1, but that's an indictment on its ability to combust not a blanket statement on oil ratios.

 

[junkman]

I have a friend that I trust completely.......his opinion is gold to me. He uses Amsoil at 60:1, swears it makes more power than any other oil at that ratio.

at 40 to 1 i am still getting a little spooge around the exhaust port limbing ,bucking it cleans up ,i can see 60 to 1 being safe ,but i am too chickin chit to try it on my stuff .

 

[jmssaws]

According to klotz,benol is there patriarch oil

 

[bwalker]

According to klotz,benol is there patriarch oil

It might be. It was state of the art in something like 1968 for preventing air cooled road race bikes from seizing on long straights.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I like it too after I advanced the timing 6° and opened up the exhaust. I use it for trimming when my 201T is too much. It'll hang with the 201T up to about 6"

They don't get much love but really are a nice little saw for the price. As often as I use it I couldn't justify the cost of a 150t

 

[Mastermind]

That less oil makes more power has been discredited many times. Amsoil might make more power at 60:1 vs something like 32:1, but that's an indictment on its ability to combust not a blanket statement on oil ratios.

I didn't intend it to be......not at all. Hell Ben, we both know that there really ain't any true "blanket statements".

The Amsoil is a cat of a different color. That's all.....