What oil is best? and what ratio?

[CoreyB]

 

[Mark71gtx]

So, without reading hundreds of pages of info, I have gathered that it seems most of you guys do not like the Stihl Ultra oil. It would be neat if someone added a poll to this with the different oils and let's see which oil gets the most love. It may sway a few other people to decide it is worth trying that particular oil. I have been happy with what I am using, but I have a few Vintage saws that I will likely not be able to get a P&C for, so in my paranoia, I am looking to try something different...

 

[CoreyB]

So, without reading hundreds of pages of info, I have gathered that it seems most of you guys do not like the Stihl Ultra oil. It would be neat if someone added a poll to this with the different oils and let's see which oil gets the most love. It may sway a few other people to decide it is worth trying that particular oil. I have been happy with what I am using, but I have a few Vintage saws that I will likely not be able to get a P&C for, so in my paranoia, I am looking to try something different...

I think the consensus is most oil is just fine. The average Joe on a stock saw will never find the limitations of the oil. Except stihl, that stinky gunkey crap. Oh and over priced. I would run polan pro synthetic over stihl. Lol

 

[Keith Gandy]

Walmart supertech synthetic is just fine

 

[Keith Gandy]

Ive seen some horrible carboned saws, blowers, and trimmers ran on Stihl Ultra. Had to use porting tool to grind out exhaust port. A few were so bad that the exhaust port was more than 50% smaller than it started

 

[Keith Gandy]

I gave my buddy Ron660 a Stihl 021 that has been ran 20 yrs on orange bottle Stihl and has never had a piston or ring change

 

[Mark71gtx]

I used to run Husqvarna synthetic until I worked on an 044 for a guy that was clean as a pin. He was using ultra, so I switched after seeing how nice the oil blanket looked on his piston. From what I am reading, I shouldn't have made the switch...

 

[Cut4fun]

dont think these guys worry about 10k 13k listed BS. They only put whats best for their 3K-5k motors, time after time, year after year.

 

[Cut4fun]

Then you got a piss poor operator here with DULL chain and way more r's in the small cant racing practice.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Then you got a piss poor operator here with DULL chain and way more r's in the small cant racing practice.

Man yall r makin a mistake by knowing what protects best in saws and using visual inspections along with practical grease monkey knowledge in deciding to use that low life low rpm Klotz??!! Yall should trust that lab data and spec sheets on oil. 800t has to be the best oil for yall to race? Myself I will call 800 out to being full of zinc and a overated decarbonizer! Ill stick with kl200 myself

 

[Keith Gandy]

Then you got a piss poor operator here with DULL chain and way more r's in the small cant racing practice.

Awesome!!

 

[Cut4fun]

Awesome!!

Same piped saw ran on muffler for kicks. Ported for pipe, not muffler.

 

[jake wells]

Same piped saw ran on muffler for kicks. Ported for pipe, not muffler.

rotten pine cant don't count

 

[Brewz]

Ive seen some horrible carboned saws, blowers, and trimmers ran on Stihl Ultra. Had to use porting tool to grind out exhaust port. A few were so bad that the exhaust port was more than 50% smaller than it started

Agreed.
I bought a saw off a book who said it had always been run on Stihl ultra and it was so full of carbon the exhaust port was as kieth described and the piston was head slapping on the carbon buildup on the squish band.

However, I have run Stihl ultra at 40:1 and 50:1 in the same saw and get a nice tan wash over the piston after several tanks.

I believe the difference is the fuel and the tune.

I used to run Husqvarna synthetic until I worked on an 044 for a guy that was clean as a pin. He was using ultra, so I switched after seeing how nice the oil blanket looked on his piston. From what I am reading, I shouldn't have made the switch...

If you are happy with how it works then stick with it

I found the Stihl ultra burned dirty in my 066 with a richer tune around 12700rpm
It runs clean at 13200

I am thinking it has to do with how the oil burns or effects the fuel burn.

That's why we see the well experienced blokes sayin this oil works in this saw and that oil works in that saw.

They will all run at different temps with different combustion chamber temperatures which will effect how the mix burns and how much is left in the saw to lubricate it.

I am starting to play with different fuel and ratios which is cheaper than buying expensive oil to try and then leave to sit on the shelf

 

[Cut4fun]

rotten pine cant don't count

I dont know wood types very good myself, but that aint pine or rotten

 

[Ron660]

13k in the cut?

If klotz original is good enough for the guys with $5k in a 3120 race saw its plenty good for these 6-8 hp ported saws.

Any 2T oil will work at the correct ratio. I'll ask the same question I asked on AS. Has anyone ever experienced an engine malfunction using ANY brand of 2-cycle oil mixed at 32:1? The answer on AS was no.

 

[Ron660]

*B-S....!! In the cut?

Yours don't have the correct sticker on it.....TN

 

[mdavlee]

Any 2T oil will work at the correct ratio. I'll ask the same question I asked on AS. Has anyone ever experienced an engine malfunction using ANY brand of 2-cycle oil mixed at 32:1? The answer on AS was no.

Only problem I had was with h1r. Couldn't tune rich enough. It almost seized an 066.

 

[Ron660]

As fat as his saw is I doubt it turns 13000 no load.

It still 4-strokes above 15K

 

[jmssaws]

I'd don't get any enjoyment embarrassing people

I'm ready.