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I hear this about five times a week, " is this worth repairing" ( mostly means I am very cheap) there is no good answer that I ever came up with in thirty 30years.
When I was asked this, I would then ask back "Did your grandfather/father give you this saw? If so, for sentimental values, yes it is worth it. If there is not sentimental value, then no, it will be cheaper for you to get a new saw." Generally if they get a new saw, they would get a bigger one anyway, I think they are looking for reassurance that spending the money on a new saw is the right way to go.
 

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I 've been in the repair field one way or another for more than fifty years. The mindset hasn't changed in all that time. What has changed is the quality of items. and lack of loyalty to a brand by the MFGs. Course most of this and be explained by current biz practices of corp conglomerates . Bottom line for investors is all that counts.
 

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Do it Bill! You could title your channel:

Ramblings with Bill

Adventures with Bill G

A Word with Bill

Fireside with Bill

Damn it, more Bill

You could even make opening credits using some cheesy late 70's game show music!

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Many years ago over a course of time I posted a bit over 100 videos on youtube. I rarely if ever talked in them just showed vintage saws in action. Many were pretty special to me. Well I was teaching at the time and a pair of jackass students got on youtube and started berating me. I got pissed and deleted all videos. Now they are lost forever. It stinks!

I view you tube videos, I do not comment nor subscribe.
 

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Many years ago over a course of time I posted a bit over 100 videos on youtube. I rarely if ever talked in them just showed vintage saws in action. Many were pretty special to me. Well I was teaching at the time and a pair of jackass students got on youtube and started berating me. I got pissed and deleted all videos. Now they are lost forever. It stinks!

I view you tube videos, I do not comment nor subscribe.


I had the same experience with YouTube. I had a lot of tutorials on how to set up the position control on the Ford n, 600, and 800 tractors without the special tools. A bunch of other obsolete machine information and Fairbanks Morse magneto repair. One day I posted a video of my 10year old son bailing hay. I don't know who flagged it but YouTube suspended me for a month and took down the video with the reason of child endangerment. I got so pissed that some silicon valley *dipstick that has never set foot off concrete and thinks food just magically shows up at the supermarket for purchase knows what's best for my children. I went on a rampage and deleted 14 years of information because I'd be damned if I let them make ad revenue off my content for free.
 

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I had the same experience with YouTube. I had a lot of tutorials on how to set up the position control on the Ford n, 600, and 800 tractors without the special tools. A bunch of other obsolete machine information and Fairbanks Morse magneto repair. One day I posted a video of my 10year old son bailing hay. I don't know who flagged it but YouTube suspended me for a month and took down the video with the reason of child endangerment. I got so pissed that some silicon valley *dipstick that has never set foot off concrete and thinks food just magically shows up at the supermarket for purchase knows what's best for my children. I went on a rampage and deleted 14 years of information because I'd be damned if I let them make ad revenue off my content for free.


You missed a great show in Mt. Pleasant today but heck head north tomorrow or Monday but Monday the swap meet is closed.

As for videos I am not sure I have ever commented on a you tube video. If I have it was a positive comment. The mention of a hay baling video reminds me of a couple I saw in the last month or so. I am not a fan of Facebook but I do have an account and see some random videos pop up. There were that just made me shake my head and one that angered me regarding baling. The first was of a young lady probably in her early 20's wearing a tank top that was not hiding much. There was a guy roughly her age driving a tractor with a rack. They had ran the bales out on the ground and she was walking along side putting them on the rack while someone was filming her. It was simply posted to exploit her.

The one that angered me was much worse. It was of a young boy I would estimate to be 6-8 years old. He was on the rack pulling bales from the baler. Folks that is not the place for a child that age. Number one he should not being pulling bales at that age. Next he clearly had not been taught to let the bale come to you not go to the bale and fight it. He was swinging the hook and grabbing them while they were still under tension. He was pulling and the bales were winning. This was making him very unstable and right on the front edge of the rack. One misstep or rut in the field and over the front he would have went. If you think the tractor operator will see it in time and stop you are sadly mistaken. That boy would have been hurt or much worse. If he wants to ride the rack fine. He can ride in the middle moving bales to the person stacking. Under no circumstances should he be pulling bales at that age. You have to begin early but also with age appropriate jobs.
 

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You missed a great show in Mt. Pleasant today but heck head north tomorrow or Monday but Monday the swap meet is closed.

As for videos I am not sure I have ever commented on a you tube video. If I have it was a positive comment. The mention of a hay baling video reminds me of a couple I saw in the last month or so. I am not a fan of Facebook but I do have an account and see some random videos pop up. There were that just made me shake my head and one that angered me regarding baling. The first was of a young lady probably in her early 20's wearing a tank top that was not hiding much. There was a guy roughly her age driving a tractor with a rack. They had ran the bales out on the ground and she was walking along side putting them on the rack while someone was filming her. It was simply posted to exploit her.

The one that angered me was much worse. It was of a young boy I would estimate to be 6-8 years old. He was on the rack pulling bales from the baler. Folks that is not the place for a child that age. Number one he should not being pulling bales at that age. Next he clearly had not been taught to let the bale come to you not go to the bale and fight it. He was swinging the hook and grabbing them while they were still under tension. He was pulling and the bales were winning. This was making him very unstable and right on the front edge of the rack. One misstep or rut in the field and over the front he would have went. If you think the tractor operator will see it in time and stop you are sadly mistaken. That boy would have been hurt or much worse. If he wants to ride the rack fine. He can ride in the middle moving bales to the person stacking. Under no circumstances should he be pulling bales at that age. You have to begin early but also with age appropriate jobs.


My son was driving the tractor, with me on the fender within easy reach of all controls. Running on flat land at less than 1mph. Don't get me wrong, things can go very south very quickly at that speed. In my opinion other than sitting in the house, the tractor seat is one of the more safe locations during small square operations.
 

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My son was driving the tractor, with me on the fender within easy reach of all controls. Running on flat land at less than 1mph. Don't get me wrong, things can go very south very quickly at that speed. In my opinion other than sitting in the house, the tractor seat is one of the more safe locations during small square operations.

I remember as a kid always wanting to ride on the fender of the AC WD with Dad. He had a flat tool box mounted halfway down that made a seat. At the time my Mom was still here and she sewed up a pillow so our butts were cushioned a bit. Dad fashioned up a seat belt to strap us in.

I had probably not talk much about all the things my brother and I did farming with Dad as kids as Dad is no longer here to defend himself. I will say the day we took the dozer down the ice covered bluff road to pull some guy out of the ditch was an experience. We were ages 10-12 and Dad was gone. The man needed to be pulled out of the ditch so that was just what you did.

After having kids I believe I tried to be safe but also wanted them involved. We had a Massey 510 combine. Now if anyone has had a 510 they know there is literally a shelf behind the seat ahead of the window to the grain tank. I was cutting beans and my oldest son was riding with me on my knee. He was probably 2-3 years old and it was nappy time. There was no such thing as a cell phone to call my wife. I just shut down for a second., wrapped him up in my coat and laid him behind me on the "shelf'. He slept nicely back there as I continued to run. I wish I would have had a camera.

I was behind the 8 ball one time on hay as it was down, rain coming in, and I needed to get going. I had the rake on a Allis Chalmers 180. Now again if folks are familiar with the Allis Chalmers of that series they had POS gear transmissions but the 2 speed power director was solid. It had what I call a solid placement oil hand clutch. I know that makes no sense but hey....You could use the foot clutch to put the standard transmission in gear but still have the power director in neutral. I put the tractor in 5th and had my wife who could not work a foot clutch at all ride with me. I showed her how to just use the power director hand clutch to go from neutral to forward. She rode a few rounds with me. I told her if she got worried just pull back and it will go to neutral. If all else pull the injector shutoff and kill the engine. She did phenomenal! I followed here with teh baler and we got it done.

She continued to build confidence and help out but my father came over one day and laid into me about having my wife doing that. He was a great man but as with us all had flaws and respect for women in the workplace was one of them. He did not feel my wife should be running a tractor. He seemed to forget that his mother used to run Grandpa's Titan 10-20 in the 1930's. If anyone has seen a Titan 10-20 you will know what type of tractor that is.

From that point on I put one of my sons on the tractor after going through the same procedure. My oldest now works for our Deere construction equipment dealer. He does a lot of their heavy hauls. Just this past week he was hauling scrapers that were over 14ft wide and in the 120,000lbs area. Another day it was a off road truck. I asked him how much tire was on the trailer, he said ...awe plenty I had 6 inches on the trailer".

I guess starting them out early had a few benefits.
 

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I remember as a kid always wanting to ride on the fender of the AC WD with Dad. He had a flat tool box mounted halfway down that made a seat. At the time my Mom was still here and she sewed up a pillow so our butts were cushioned a bit. Dad fashioned up a seat belt to strap us in.

I had probably not talk much about all the things my brother and I did farming with Dad as kids as Dad is no longer here to defend himself. I will say the day we took the dozer down the ice covered bluff road to pull some guy out of the ditch was an experience. We were ages 10-12 and Dad was gone. The man needed to be pulled out of the ditch so that was just what you did.

After having kids I believe I tried to be safe but also wanted them involved. We had a Massey 510 combine. Now if anyone has had a 510 they know there is literally a shelf behind the seat ahead of the window to the grain tank. I was cutting beans and my oldest son was riding with me on my knee. He was probably 2-3 years old and it was nappy time. There was no such thing as a cell phone to call my wife. I just shut down for a second., wrapped him up in my coat and laid him behind me on the "shelf'. He slept nicely back there as I continued to run. I wish I would have had a camera.

I was behind the 8 ball one time on hay as it was down, rain coming in, and I needed to get going. I had the rake on a Allis Chalmers 180. Now again if folks are familiar with the Allis Chalmers of that series they had POS gear transmissions but the 2 speed power director was solid. It had what I call a solid placement oil hand clutch. I know that makes no sense but hey....You could use the foot clutch to put the standard transmission in gear but still have the power director in neutral. I put the tractor in 5th and had my wife who could not work a foot clutch at all ride with me. I showed her how to just use the power director hand clutch to go from neutral to forward. She rode a few rounds with me. I told her if she got worried just pull back and it will go to neutral. If all else pull the injector shutoff and kill the engine. She did phenomenal! I followed here with teh baler and we got it done.

She continued to build confidence and help out but my father came over one day and laid into me about having my wife doing that. He was a great man but as with us all had flaws and respect for women in the workplace was one of them. He did not feel my wife should be running a tractor. He seemed to forget that his mother used to run Grandpa's Titan 10-20 in the 1930's. If anyone has seen a Titan 10-20 you will know what type of tractor that is.

From that point on I put one of my sons on the tractor after going through the same procedure. My oldest now works for our Deere construction equipment dealer. He does a lot of their heavy hauls. Just this past week he was hauling scrapers that were over 14ft wide and in the 120,000lbs area. Another day it was a off road truck. I asked him how much tire was on the trailer, he said ...awe plenty I had 6 inches on the trailer".

I guess starting them out early had a few benefits.

I think every tractor in that era should have had a two speed power director just like those AC's had. Being able to creep with a loader or into a windrow to start a bale. For the time they were amazing. Now with all the hydrostats and IVT gearboxes the power director is last year's tech. But still a very usable option to have on the farm.
 

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Stihl is typical of most German manufactors .I've worked around a bunch of them over the years .They make good stuff however the design is such they use OEM only designs to control the parts source. Because Stihl supports dealers in such a away they attempt to control information calling it intellectual property .From that I really don't think they want people doing repairs or maintanece except through a dealer .They haven't been successful with that mindset .Saying that they do however have very good parts lists where as Husqvarna has the worst .They give the part number but not what the part is .
 

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I think every tractor in that era should have had a two speed power director just like those AC's had. Being able to creep with a loader or into a windrow to start a bale. For the time they were amazing. Now with all the hydrostats and IVT gearboxes the power director is last year's tech. But still a very usable option to have on the farm.
I have what is somewhat of an oddball here. I have a AC 190 gas that only has a snap coupler. With the introduction of the Series IV D-17 a good chunk abandoned the snap coupler and went to the 3 pt (for good reason) when buying new. Now the D-21 was a horse of it's own with some only having a drawbar. When they went to the 170-190 series they mostly had 3 pts. I got this 190 gas up in southern Wisconsin back in 2017. Now the 160 was another horse of it's own. That was a weird tractor.

As you know the WD also had a oil hand clutch but it was just an in and out. Mine is still in the shed and I bet the seatbelt is still on the fender.

On a side note if anyone wants a Farmall 560 diesel NF, Allis WD-45 WF, Ford 2N, or Ford 3000 D I have those to re-home. Bring a trailer and some cash. :)
 

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On the subject of what da hell I had a guy text me tonight asking me if I had sprayed vinegar on a stuck tractor clutch here. I just wonder exactly how he thought I was going to do that while I was running it around.
 

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Just say "No it is not!".

Anyone asking whether something is worth fixing already made up their mind what they intend to pay which is usually not much.
I don’t ask others the question, but I do tend to ask myself that question all the time. Is it worth dropping 2-300 bucks on a saw that once I crack it open and find more little bits and pieces needing replacing as I go…maybe a new 261 is more practical than fixing that old 260 etc. Then I usually buy a new one to use now, and keep the old one and slow roll the repairs and spend way more!
 
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