The Metalworking Thread

[Wilhelm]

first DMG Mori in the shop? looks like you will be getting CAD/CAM software after all LOL. unless you can program that 5axis mill turn in Celos.
hope you don't break down ever, heard these machines have horrible customer service techs. that was out of the mouth of an ex service engineer.

Eighth DMG, second DMF, biggest machine yet.
It'll be slavery to be assigned to the DMF300 as it will be set up with dual worktables and it will process the biggest & heaviest workpieces.

99% of all DMG processing programs are G-Code (Celos) as they need to be correctable to the operators on the machines console.

Upon purchase of the first two machines DMG support was all like "We will come within 24 hours of Your call!" and they did.
Now they are generally in no hurry to come fix the machines.
Also, the DMG machines are sensitive to abuse (collisions due to programming/operator error) and they wear fast coughing up issues even within the first year of usage during warranty.

I am fond of the Hurco machines, the abuse they take is insane.
Unfortunately support is poor too and the last three purchased machines were (and still are) riddled with factory issues - that greatly contributed to the brand switch to DMG.

 

[Wilhelm]

DMG DMF180/7

 

[srcarr52]

Eighth DMG, second DMF, biggest machine yet.
It'll be slavery to be assigned to the DMF300 as it will be set up with dual worktables and it will process the biggest & heaviest workpieces.

99% of all DMG processing programs are G-Code (Celos) as they need to be correctable to the operators on the machines console.

Upon purchase of the first two machines DMG support was all like "We will come within 24 hours of Your call!" and they did.
Now they are generally in no hurry to come fix the machines.
Also, the DMG machines are sensitive to abuse (collisions due to programming/operator error) and they wear fast coughing up issues even within the first year of usage during warranty.

I am fond of the Hurco machines, the abuse they take is insane.
Unfortunately support is poor too and the last three purchased machines were (and still are) riddled with factory issues - that greatly contributed to the brand switch to DMG.

I'm still rocking Milltronics machines from 96 and 98. I either use their conversational programming on the machine or write the g code by hand.

 

[Squareground3691]

I'm still rocking Milltronics machines from 96 and 98. I either use their conversational programming on the machine or write the g code by hand.

Good little mill , Milltronics

 

[srcarr52]

Good little mill , Milltronics View attachment 377329

That's a lot newer than the ones I have.

 

[Squareground3691]

That's a lot newer than the ones I have.

Yea, it’s about 8 years old ,

 

[Wilhelm]

The new stuff is all crap and unreliable!
In some aspects faster and with more features, yes - but not better.

Old analog driven machines are the bomb, the digital stuff is way too sensitive to its surrounding.

 

[srcarr52]

The new stuff is all crap and unreliable!
In some aspects faster and with more features, yes - but not better.

Old analog driven machines are the bomb, the digital stuff is way too sensitive to its surrounding.

That is what I like about the old milltronics machines. They are pretty reliable and if they do break I can figure it out and fix it myself. Plus they can be picked up pretty cheap and run on single phase.

I have a Partner P00 knee mill with their mill-slide head. It makes for a pretty convenient machine to do general machining with or it can make decently precise small parts with the limited 6.5" of CNC controlled Z travel.

 

[Stihl Potlicker]

I'm still rocking Milltronics machines from 96 and 98. I either use their conversational programming on the machine or write the g code by hand.

we have an old Mori SL-45 that was bought new in 83/84? and the operator that runs it has been on it since '87 right out of HS. that thing is a beast.

 

[Stihl Potlicker]

The new stuff is all crap and unreliable!
In some aspects faster and with more features, yes - but not better.

Old analog driven machines are the bomb, the digital stuff is way too sensitive to its surrounding.

ya the shop I work at ain't climate controlled, but we don't have many issues with are CNCs, our boring mills the quills grow a bit over the course of the day, but you learn to compensate for it. we did have to put in 2 hard drives in the Hermle C-30, in less than a yr. but I don't think they were good from the get-go.

 

[Stihl Potlicker]

Eighth DMG, second DMF, biggest machine yet.
It'll be slavery to be assigned to the DMF300 as it will be set up with dual worktables and it will process the biggest & heaviest workpieces.

99% of all DMG processing programs are G-Code (Celos) as they need to be correctable to the operators on the machines console.

Upon purchase of the first two machines DMG support was all like "We will come within 24 hours of Your call!" and they did.
Now they are generally in no hurry to come fix the machines.
Also, the DMG machines are sensitive to abuse (collisions due to programming/operator error) and they wear fast coughing up issues even within the first year of usage during warranty.

I am fond of the Hurco machines, the abuse they take is insane.
Unfortunately support is poor too and the last three purchased machines were (and still are) riddled with factory issues - that greatly contributed to the brand switch to DMG.

glad they went with a Mazak INTEGREX I 400 than, instead of the DMG NTX 3000 LOL

 

[Wilhelm]

 

[davidwyby]

Big iron this weekend (unrelated)

We are to replace the shaft in the pulley.

 

[davidwyby]

Vids later

 

[Squareground3691]

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That’s a lot of hot metal to remove,

 

[Loony661]

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I can feel that picture.

 

[Wilhelm]

Vids later View attachment 379127View attachment 379128View attachment 379129View attachment 379130

Seems like a very crude way to get out whatever is in there needing removed!?

 

[Wilhelm]

Frenching Firetruck!
I have been assigned to run the dreaded beast DMF300/8 next week, NOT looking forward to it.

 

[davidwyby]

Seems like a very crude way to get out whatever is in there needing removed!?

It’s 16” diameter, .020” interference fit. 62” OF, 1” too big to fit in our VTL. What do you suggest?

 

[Yukon Stihl]

Metal moves the easiest in liquid form