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And yet trying to navigate the truth of all these issues is like running full speed through a maze of mirrors, and some of the mirrors let you through into an alternate but false universe without you even realizing it. Little ground can be made arguing politics unless everyone rebuilds the foundation of their understanding of everything, so that everyone starts off and progresses in agreement. Otherwise it's apples to oranges arguing since everyone has their own world view and assumes others share some of the same fundamentals they they actually don't.
worldview has nothing to do
with the facts. are we unable to agree on the FACT that polio is a devastating childhood disease that is no longer endemic in our population because of a vaccine that prevents it? i just cant wrap my head around it. the truth is the truth and no amount of “alternative facts” or “fake news” will make me believe otherwise.
 

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i understand people have concerns. but theres also a reason kids dont get polio anymore. and measles. and a myriad of other terrible diseases that were a fact of life not that many years ago.
I fully support those vaccines (vaccines that work). Conversely, I never got the Covid vaccine, and never will. Only had Covid once, and it was not that bad. We have good reason to believe the vaccine led to the death of my wife's cousin, but there is no way to prove it, and he is not included in the statistical evidence as a potential vaccine victim as he should be.

I also know people who got numerous Covid vaccines and had Covid more frequently than me, so it obviously is not as effective as those other vaccines you mention. Nor does it last very long.

My wife's cousin got the vaccine because he was vulnerable to covid (had heart problems). Soon after he got the vaccine, his heart problems got worse (we believe as a result of the vaccine, it is a known side effect). He made an appointment with his cardiologist and (ironically) they cancelled it at the last minute due to Covid ... and he died before he could reschedule.

I still can't get past the irony of doctors telling patients "If you are sick, don't come here"! Isn't that why we have doctors? And if the vaccine worked so darn well, what were they afraid of?

Bottom line, I'm a retired Audit Manager and Certified Fraud Examiner. When they suppress releasing results for 75 years there is something they don't want you to know.

The lunacy of requiring military, police, firefighters and other civil service employees to get the vaccine (or be fired) while simultaneously letting millions of folks cross our borders illegally w/o being checked or required to get the vaccine just makes my head hurt. If there are strains of Covid we are more vulnerable to getting, they are likely coming from other countries.

Just like the diseases that are killing our trees, including Emerald Ash bore and Dutch Elm Disease (see, it made this relevant!). They come from other Countries.

Let's move on.
 

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worldview has nothing to do
with the facts. are we unable to agree on the FACT that polio is a devastating childhood disease that is no longer endemic in our population because of a vaccine that prevents it? i just cant wrap my head around it. the truth is the truth and no amount of “alternative facts” or “fake news” will make me believe otherwise.
Ironically enough, Polio was on the decline before the vaccine came out... this was more than likely due to keeping better hygiene and separation of waste and bio matter from daily exposure. The same with tetanus... the tetanus shot is BS... 95% of the time... UNLESS you get a deep puncture where you can't thoroughly clean the wound, and/or you get cut where their is a lot of feces... horse, cow, etc etc... even then, if the tetanus bacteria is present and you get cut if you go clean the area thoroughly it's likely you won't get tetanus... because the spores wont have the breeding ground time to release and replicate into the blood stream...
There are vaccines that are good and purposeful, no doubt about it... the issue nowadays are the additional additives, their concentrations as well as the total required amount of inoculations. Of course there hasn't been peer reviewed studies on the potential correlation between alzheimers, dimensia, neurological disorders and allergies since the inception of vaccines... once the pharma company have their protection removed, a lot of details will be released to the public and the studies that weren't peer reviewed will gain in credibilit.
In the service, when I was checking out the Dr asked me if invasion going to continue to get my annual vaccines... I told him "no". He warned me that my body has been compromised in the sense that my immune system has been artificially peaked for such a long time that if I didn't stay on schedule my body would crash and I would be susceptible to even the basic of colds... I laughed at what he said... youth... I was dumb, ignorant to the facts etc... well, when I got out and moved back to the woods/hills of NY old Navy, Army, Marines told me to stay up on the shots otherwise in 2 to 3yrs I'm going to get sick... I laughed again. 3yrs later, I got SICK... lost 32# sick. After that, I paid attention to my nutrition and focused on natural remedies that would boost my immune system without causing a crash if I stopped eating/supplementing.

Below is the required number of vaccinations in the United States:

*Childhood Vaccinations (Birth to 18 years)*

1. *Hepatitis B*: 3 doses (birth, 1-2 months, 6-18 months)
2. *Rotavirus*: 2-3 doses (2-4 months, 4-6 months, 6-8 months)
3. *Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)*: 5 doses (2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15-18 months, 4-6 years)
4. *Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)*: 3-4 doses (2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 12-15 months)
5. *Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV)*: 4 doses (2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 12-15 months)
6. *Influenza (flu)*: annual vaccination (6 months and older)
7. *Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR)*: 2 doses (12-15 months, 4-6 years)
8. *Varicella (chickenpox)*: 2 doses (12-15 months, 4-6 years)
9. *Hepatitis A*: 2 doses (12-23 months, 2-3 years)
10. *Human Papillomavirus (HPV)*: 2-3 doses (11-12 years, 16-18 years)

*Adult Vaccinations (19 years and older)*

1. *Influenza (flu)*: annual vaccination
2. *Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis)*: 1 dose (every 10 years)
3. *Shingles*: 2 doses (50 years and older, 2-6 months apart)
4. *Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV)*: 1-2 doses (65 years and older)
5. *Hepatitis A*: 2 doses (recommended for certain groups, such as travelers)
6. *Hepatitis B*: 2-3 doses (recommended for certain groups, such as healthcare workers)
7. *HPV*: 2-3 doses (recommended for certain groups, such as young adults)
8. *Meningococcal*: 1-2 doses (recommended for certain groups, such as college students)
As for the Covid MRNA vaccines.... have any of you read the released documentation on these? It's sad that they companys tried to keep the documentation hidden from the public for 75yrs... there are still a lot of redacted parts in the information/derails.
I'm curious to see what RFK actually brings to the forefront so the American people can see what these agencies, govts have been hiding.
 

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You guys random thoughts sure are extensive!

Mine are usually just:
- f@¢k!
- WTF?
- seriously?
- wow!
Ive been on-top, in-deep and all around this shhhh since the late 2019, early 2020... as soon as they said they were using Kary Mullis's PCR test, I knew it was all bull-poop. Kary did interviews (they are still on YT) stating that if certain people used his machine they could manipulate the data to suit their agenda... then he died all of a sudden with pneumonia... he was snuffed.
 
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I have a random thought, more like a random question.

Why does FORD put a "non-rated" trailer hitch on a truck that is rated to carry 12000 lbs - so it has to be replaced with a true load capacity hitch?
Here is a random thought. Why do any of them Ford, Chevy, Dodge even call what they build a "truck"?
 
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Let it go gentlemen. Political debate in the US is impossible to have these days. Opinions on based on whatever information silo you have embedded yourself in. None seem to be based in fact. Just let it go.

Well here is a fact
Saws are fun
 

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instead of buying foreign oil lets grow domestic corn.
Remember when Trump leveraged the world and was able to purchase oil for cheaper than what we could process our own? Don't quote me for certain but, I think that oil went towards our strategic reserves???
 

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I said let it go. I'm not asking.
Let what go? This thread is for random thoughts, correct?... with random thoughts typically comes with discussion and sidebar conversations... 🤔 Im going to Assume you dont agree with some of what has been said so you just want it squashed?
To each their own... lol
 

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Let what go? This thread is for random thoughts, correct?... with random thoughts typically comes with discussion and sidebar conversations... 🤔 Im going to Assume you dont agree with some of what has been said so you just want it squashed?
To each their own... lol
Has nothing to do with agreeing or not. This forum has a very simple no politics and no religion policy.
Anyone is free to participate within those guidelines.

We have all said political things on here, I'm sure, as no one is perfect, but keeping on with it after being told to stop is just disrespectful of the owners of the forum.
 

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Buuuuut it's OK to flame a person or people that have an opposite opinion or stance of the collective? Which if y'all read the rules, is against the community standards. Sooooo where are you trying to go with this? Bis thread Is following the standards.
 

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Has nothing to do with agreeing or not. This forum has a very simple no politics and no religion policy.
Anyone is free to participate within those guidelines.

We have all said political things on here, I'm sure, as no one is perfect, but keeping on with it after being told to stop is just disrespectful of the owners of the forum.
I retract my last... I missed rule #8. My bad.
 
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