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Further to your measuring up .
I do have my own 42 special that was the first one i did as a experiment to see how they went. Now…Im thinking of doing a gasket delete on it soon as a further upgrade so il measure it up while doing that. Its a 1996 De-comp model so that should tell us if there is a basic set up difference between the Gil 8 and the Gil 241 cylinders.
Simon,
I studied Gilardoni 7 vs 241A today, just ruffly.
If my eyes doesnt play a game with me, I think the combustion chamber is a tad smaller on 241 vs 7.
Ruffly I also think the squish may be a tad tighter on 241 also, 46mm vs 46,1mm.
I am pretty sure u soon gone pop that 8 jug and start to compare them lol

If there is any difference between 42 and 42 special it has to be compression, I sure gone put one 42 together next week, currious myself now
 

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Simon,
I studied Gilardoni 7 vs 241A today, just ruffly.
If my eyes doesnt play a game with me, I think the combustion chamber is a tad smaller on 241 vs 7.
Ruffly I also think the squish may be a tad tighter on 241 also, 46mm vs 46,1mm.
I am pretty sure u soon gone pop that 8 jug and start to compare them lol

If there is any difference between 42 and 42 special it has to be compression, I sure gone put one 42 together next week, currious myself now
Hi Tor.
That makes sense …Iv always had a idea the standard 42 may have "Some" difference ,but apart from the de-comp on the cylinder on all the specials and them being G 241 jugs ... I didn't know what.
I can't see why they would put a De-comp on the cylinder if the compression was the same as always. Change in compression seems the most logical reason and then the "Special" term makes some sense . My standard squish 1996 Gil 241 ..42 sp has more or less 160 psi compared to the 1992 Gil 8 having 125-130psi.
Iv got to see if the 1996 saw will gasket delete now i suppose !!:D ..what do we think .. 175-180 ? :)
 

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Hi Tor.
That makes sense …Iv always had a idea the standard 42 may have "Some" difference ,but apart from the de-comp on the cylinder on all the specials and them being G 241 jugs ... I didn't know what.
I can't see why they would put a De-comp on the cylinder if the compression was the same as always. Change in compression seems the most logical reason and then the "Special" term makes some sense . My standard squish 1996 Gil 241 ..42 sp has more or less 160 psi compared to the 1992 Gil 8 having 125-130psi.
Iv got to see if the 1996 saw will gasket delete now i suppose !!:D ..what do we think .. 175-180 ? :)
check the squish very close on that 241 jug, I think it was the one I checked with plastigauge, 0,012"-0.014". Coke gasket should bring it up another 0.004".
If the combustion chamber is smaller 241vs7 I think we have figured out what 42 special really was :)
I'll for sure have decided that I will put one 42 together soon, I really want to figure this out lol.
 

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check the squish very close on that 241 jug, I think it was the one I checked with plastigauge, 0,012"-0.014". Coke gasket should bring it up another 0.004".
If the combustion chamber is smaller 241vs7 I think we have figured out what 42 special really was :)
I'll for sure have decided that I will put one 42 together soon, I really want to figure this out lol.
Right…the cylinder i have is a G 241 and isn't a 7…its a 6 !. the saw is a 96 so could that be the year of making ? It also has a "A"size KS piston , didn't spot that 1st time i was in there! I could see no obviouse difference in pin to top measurement …BUT..its a windowed piston and not like the one that i found in the low compression 42 . I would say the flat band is about 6mm wide , about the same on most iv seen.
Squish came out at 00.018…00.020 mm so i went for it !
I think the standard clearance with a gasket is just tighter compared to the standard 42 and they have effectively .."Decked " the jug in factory machining to get more compression. Thats my guess anyhow :)
Ran the saw for a few mins and now just letting it set up while to cure the 1184 wile i have a coffee , then a test cut or 2 :DPhoto0657.jpgPhoto0658.jpg
 

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Well there they are Photo0661.jpg Photo0662.jpg Head to head…. they are Sooooooo close even with the big difference in compassion. Yea I know one is on a 13 in and the other on a 15 in bar but i cut the same chunks of wood ( 2-10 inch) and trimmed out a small tree with both back to back . All i can say is the one on the short bar ( G 241 High comp) is a tinny bit faster to come off idle and hit 14500 rpm , ( bar change could have a difference on the low comp one maybe)…in small wood when you are on and off the trigger you might notice . Under load without using the dogs they both will hold 10300 plus and 9500 ish when you push on them. Thats all fine by me as they are as stable in idle as you would hope for and jump into life without any bother hot or cold. :)
 

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Do you give it an air bath every time you use it? You should see the one I am going to send Randy. He probably will say that I sent him the wrong saw!! Lol
 

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This 266 se looks a bit scruffy with the red paint (soon to be rectified) but looking a little deeper ...proper original piston/cylinder with hardly a mark on it ! real good compression and it "Pings " lovely.
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As always, the number plate is interesting, particularly on a 266xp.

What is that thing on the top cover?
Hi ST..good to see you.:)
Pics i could take were awful with the reflections i kept getting so i will type what is on the plate.
Electrolux moto AB....type 266 se...1661..(serial No)..010884.
Take it it ether 1981 or 1984 ?
That hole and the red paint were like it when i got the saw.. the top cover thing just seems to be a crude way of covering a hole in the plastic top cover and there is no evidence as to why there is a hole in the cover . I will use a rubber bung i think for a tidier appearance.
 

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Hi ST..good to see you.:)
Pics i could take were awful with the reflections i kept getting so i will type what is on the plate.
Electrolux moto AB....type 266 se...1661..(serial No)..010884.
Take it it ether 1981 or 1984 ?
.... .

A 266 with that on the number plate should be a 1981 or early 1982 - as I believe the full year was on the tag from some time in 1982 to some time in 1984, when they started using decodable numbers (all this may have varied slightly between models). The serial number itself isn't decodable in any way I know of - except that it likely was saw number 10884 in the first batch of 166/266 saws (1661).

As it is an early 266se, it likely left the factory with the HS-163 carb, or the equal size (15.9 mm venturi) Walbro - but it may of course have been changed later.

The plastic brake handle is much newer than the case of the saw.
 
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A 266 with that on the number plate should be a 1981 or early 1982 - as I believe the full year was on the tag from some time in 1982 to some time in 1984 (may have varied slightly between models). The serial number itself isn't decodable in any way I know of - except that it likely was saw number 10884 in the first batch of 166/266 saws (1661).

As it is an early 266se, it likely left the factory with the HS-163 carb, or the equal size (15.9 mm venturi) Walbro.
I will pop the cover and have a look at the carb tomorrow when I'm in the workshop. It has a 268 side cover (EM original at least) but as far as i can see its not been messed about with. Very robustly made saw !
 
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A 266 with that on the number plate should be a 1981 or early 1982 - as I believe the full year was on the tag from some time in 1982 to some time in 1984, when they started using decodable numbers (all this may have varied slightly between models). The serial number itself isn't decodable in any way I know of - except that it likely was saw number 10884 in the first batch of 166/266 saws (1661).

As it is an early 266se, it likely left the factory with the HS-163 carb, or the equal size (15.9 mm venturi) Walbro - but it may of course have been changed later.

The plastic brake handle is much newer than the case of the saw.
Had a look see and it has the "Tillotson 163 " carb i believe the SE saws had and not the" Tillotson" 224 carb the XP appears to have been fitted with.
The cover has a ragged hole from some damage under the plate...have replaced with a rubber and button fixing and have got shot of that red paint. Have some Husqvarna paint on order but won't be a exact match, may leave it as it is if its to far out. Photo0753.jpg Photo0754.jpg
 

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They got the bigger carb in 85-06, XP decal on top cover 86-01 and finaly XP decal on start cover in 86-12.
I went through this to figure out when my 266 was made, eventually I figured out it was made late 86 or early 87 due all those things + crankshaft number :)
 

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They got the bigger carb in 85-06, XP decal on top cover 86-01 and finaly XP decal on start cover in 86-12.
I went through this to figure out when my 266 was made, eventually I figured out it was made late 86 or early 87 due all those things + crankshaft number :)
Thats the changes I found as well...the bigger carb with XP is a help in dating ...as long as its not a SE with the 2 things changed . ..Then like you with crank numbers , a bit more digging is needed.
I was always of the opinion the SE and XP were different as the RPM's that are not rated the same as likely due to the carb ...but it was put by someone on another forum i belong to , that they were "ALL " the same SE or XP . I don't mean ST by the way !!:)
 
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