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Basher, thanks for posting that picture of the choke valve in the 026 filter. The shape of the valve with the shape of the 'tit' is much like Jerry Branch showed me on the rotary valve cover. It is similar to what I built up on the inside of the 029 filter.
 

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Bashed, those pics are great. Very explanatory.

I'm now convinced that the 044 carb and boot wakes this little saw up.

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the factory choke to still function on this conversion.
 

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Bashed, those pics are great. Very explanatory.

I'm now convinced that the 044 carb and boot wakes this little saw up.

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the factory choke to still function on this conversion.

Yes, that has been done. Putting a 044 carb in a 026 is old hat, been done back as far as 07 that I know of and likely even before then. They run good at WOT but always had idle issues. To get the choke to work a metal arm needs to be fabbed up and clamped to the saws master control switch shaft on the right hand side of the carb. The arm then then extends up to actuate the choke shaft on the 044 carb.
 
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I was thinking of removing the choke arm and flap on an 044 carb, then lathing the carb to the thickness of a 194, and trying to use the factory flapper made larger.
 

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Try a stronger metering spring in the 044 carb, it may fix your idling problem.
Where does one get a metering spring kit for walbro? Also, how does one test spring pressure?

Pop off pressure?
 

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POP pressure is Bull chit. The metering spring is just one of the components that 'ramps' in the fuel from the low speed circuit.

You may be able to fix the idle by simply shimming up the metering spring. If you can't find a few small washers to put under the spring, then make up some shims from what ever you have available (tin can, aluminium) and try them. If they start to fix the idle problem, then maybe you can find a stronger spring from one of your other carbs to stick under the metering lever.

The 'ramp' of the low speed circuit is determined by the size of the metering orifice and the spring rate. The spring rate is determined by the thickness of the spring and the pitch. Together, the regulate how fast the low speed circuit comes in.

The other remaining 'ramp' tuning is the pre-load on the spring. A higher pre-load delays the ramping in of the low speed circuit. Since you have a problem with the idle, it may be that a higher seat pressure (more pre-load on the seat) will lean out the idle. A higher seat pressure works similar to dropping the float level in a float carb. It takes more 'suction' to start the fuel flowing.

Try shimming the spring to start with and then go from there.
 

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We figured back when that the 026 wasn`t pulling enough air through the bigger venturi of the 044 carb at idle and therefore there was not enough vacuum to pull enough fuel from the carb to get the engine to idle down correctly, seemed the engine was always running lean at idle. What ya all think, that a possibility?
 

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I was thinking of removing the choke arm and flap on an 044 carb, then lathing the carb to the thickness of a 194, and trying to use the factory flapper made larger.
You've got your work cut out. My 044 carb is 10mm larger from front to back. Seems like a lot
 

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If it is running lean at idle, then reduce the size of the cutaway on the throttle plate. That will increase the velocity across the idle circuit hole. Perhaps lay a layer of solder along the inside edge of the cutaway.
 

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You've got your work cut out. My 044 carb is 10mm larger from front to back. Seems like a lot
Has a few thoughts on this.

One is to remove a bit off of the front as well. Another is leaving a 3-4mm lip around the choke side opening, maybe 3mm thick, and having the air filter slip over that portion of if. Basically leaving a male extension off the back of the carb body to interface with the matching female section of the filter.
 

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Bashed, those pics are great. Very explanatory.

I'm now convinced that the 044 carb and boot wakes this little saw up.

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the factory choke to still function on this conversion.
I lowered the right carb mounting bolt. This allowed the impulse hose to fit better, as well as getting adjuster screws to line up better. By doing this, the factory air filter with choke works. I pulled the choke butterfly from the 044 carb20160327_004121.jpg20160327_011624.jpg20160327_020500.jpg
 

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