Not So Pro 3

[Stump Shot]

They can be made into a very strong and reliable power plant.

From a machinists perspective, all V8’s are just V8’s. Each brand has its different approach to how the heads are laid out, and that pretty much the only difference between them. 2 bolt, 4 bolt, doesn’t much matter at street power levels. They all run essentially the same. It’s just finding what each brand and series likes for the combination of head volume, and camshaft.

That being said, in the muscle era, obviously the big brands were racing to make the most power. It’s no secret that Mopar made more HP per cubic inch than any other V8 when they debuted the Hemi. Aside from that, they are all expensive to make high HP with. People used to argue that the SBC was the cheapest V8 to build. They weren’t wrong when talking about a budget build for the grocery getter. Once you start putting forged cranks and pistons etc into them for racing, they aren’t any cheaper. Pick what you want to run, and go with it.

Hemi's were cheap in comparison to the only thing that would beat it on the drag strip, the 427sohc. The cost for the parts to do so was another matter altogether and this is what let the Chrysler design stay competitive. So, it's all perspective, I guess.
You can find pretty looking SBC parts in every damn store across this great land. Why we called them dime store motors. With all the other available options left to us back then, it was easier to find the biggest bulk of a motor and stuff it into whatever you could come up with for a body. Those guys with the pretty looking SBCth never stood a chance. We didn't have a lot of money back in the 80th, but we had fun.

 

[Stump Shot]

I’ll add that aftermarket support, and the internet, has made it a lot easier to build engines of all types and sizes. So thanks Al Gore. Lol

You got the money, nothing is impossible.

 

[redline4]

I know where there's a Ford 400 sitting in a fenceline along with a few Ford transmissions and a disassembled 351W for probably 25 years.
I also know where a Chevette that was turned into a homemade dually and customized with no doors and the roof cut off is buried. It's near where we put the 78 Yamaha enduro up in a big white pine.
The stupid things you do with friends, a welder, a grinder and access to an endloader and pettibone..

 

[Stump Shot]

lol i forgot yesterday

Damnit, a perfectly good reminder, shot right in the ol' wazzoo.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Hemi's were cheap in comparison to the only thing that would beat it on the drag strip, the 427sohc. The cost for the parts to do so was another matter altogether and this is what let the Chrysler design stay competitive. So, it's all perspective, I guess.
You can find pretty looking SBC parts in every damn store across this great land. Why we called them dime store motors. With all the other available options left to us back then, it was easier to find the biggest bulk of a motor and stuff it into whatever you could come up with for a body. Those guys with the pretty looking SBCth never stood a chance. We didn't have a lot of money back in the 80th, but we had fun.

Kinda sucks the 427 sohc got to only be a drag motor since Chrysler filed with NASCAR to not allow it for nascar racing. I think it would have lived a longer life and they would have built more if it was allowed. One other engine that would give a hemi a run was the boss 9 in later years. Would love to have a John keese boss 9 aluminum block in something but I’m too cheap.

 

[Mastermind]

I had the same experience. Under a 100,000th mile and the mains were knocking. A 1970 390 I procured; went in a lot of trucks I owned over the years. Now all that Big Block stuff is dried up and big money, back then it was everywhere, and folks were giving it away.

There are things that can be done to improve oil pressure and make the 400 live a long life. After all.....its just a stroker 351 Cleveland.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

What lots of people did on the fe’s was to get an ft crank and machine the snout back to use in an fe block. This allowed a relatively cheap way to get a forged crank and rods for your built fe block.

 

[3browns]

Morning men, 27 and cloudy with a small chance of moisture later

Coffee weather

Althea Miss Honey Brown is here for a 10 day dog sleepover while my younger son and family are in Hawaii

Corgi Husky mix rescue from Togiak

 

[dall]

Hemi's were cheap in comparison to the only thing that would beat it on the drag strip, the 427sohc. The cost for the parts to do so was another matter altogether and this is what let the Chrysler design stay competitive. So, it's all perspective, I guess.
You can find pretty looking SBC parts in every damn store across this great land. Why we called them dime store motors. With all the other available options left to us back then, it was easier to find the biggest bulk of a motor and stuff it into whatever you could come up with for a body. Those guys with the pretty looking SBCth never stood a chance. We didn't have a lot of money back in the 80th, but we had fun.

lol dime store motor lol
better than a paperweight anchor

There are things that can be done to improve oil pressure and make the 400 live a long life. After all.....its just a stroker 351 Cleveland.

lol ford hasnt made a good vehicle since the model a and model t

 

[Loony661]

There are things that can be done to improve oil pressure and make the 400 live a long life. After all.....its just a stroker 351 Cleveland.

Yes, oiling improvements was a big thing Tim did at the shop as well. He still makes products and has directions for improving oil flow to the mains. That was a major design drawback on the M series.

 

[Mastermind]

Yes, oiling improvements was a big thing Tim did at the shop as well. He still makes products and has directions for improving oil flow to the mains. That was a major design drawback on the M series.

 

[Stump Shot]

lol dime store motor lol
better than a paperweight anchor

lol ford hasnt made a good vehicle since the model a and model t

You're a headcase.

 

[Stump Shot]

I know where there's a Ford 400 sitting in a fenceline along with a few Ford transmissions and a disassembled 351W for probably 25 years.
I also know where a Chevette that was turned into a homemade dually and customized with no doors and the roof cut off is buried. It's near where we put the 78 Yamaha enduro up in a big white pine.
The stupid things you do with friends, a welder, a grinder and access to an endloader and pettibone..

To think all of the stuff I hauled to that dump that folks would clammer for today, bikes, motorcycles, V8 & I6 engines, outboard motors, snowmobiles, and now your ass is zip lining over it all.

 

[Tor R]

Good morning folks,

I've been on a drive, this came home with me, $175 deal:

Nos 357 parts, tank with AV's, top cover, muffler + bracket.
Nos 262 and 42 piston.
Nos 242 clutch drum with two gears.


I think one of the handles may have barely been used, 3 of them are nos, I got a nos rear heating element + switch for the NE.

When I was driving I was hoping to buy one of the handles, not wanting to be greedy and wanting everything they have for symbolic money, I didn't expect them to put up 4, but was very grateful for it.

I'm going to keep one of the OE handles myself (the one that may have been used) (I don't have any myself), buy an NE switch panel + a rear heater, it's going to take a while before I get projects in that we can strip for flywheels and generators, the last one we can use from 550's. But flywheels are going to take time since 346/353 had unique ones for the series.

One day the three sets will be complete and will be given away to three in this thread.

 

[dall]

Good morning folks,

I've been on a drive, this came home with me, $175 deal:
View attachment 444504
Nos 357 parts, tank with AV's, top cover, muffler + bracket.
Nos 262 and 42 piston.
Nos 242 clutch drum with two gears.

View attachment 444503
I think one of the handles may have barely been used, 3 of them are nos, I got a nos rear heating element + switch for the NE.

When I was driving I was hoping to buy one of the handles, not wanting to be greedy and wanting everything they have for symbolic money, I didn't expect them to put up 4, but was very grateful for it.

I'm going to keep one of the OE handles myself (the one that may have been used) (I don't have any myself), buy an NE switch panel + a rear heater, it's going to take a while before I get projects in that we can strip for flywheels and generators, the last one we can use from 550's. But flywheels are going to take time since 346/353 had unique ones for the series.

One day the three sets will be complete and will be given away to three in this thread.

you must live near the big lake

 

[maulhead]

Good morning folks,

I've been on a drive, this came home with me, $175 deal:
View attachment 444504
Nos 357 parts, tank with AV's, top cover, muffler + bracket.
Nos 262 and 42 piston.
Nos 242 clutch drum with two gears.

View attachment 444503
I think one of the handles may have barely been used, 3 of them are nos, I got a nos rear heating element + switch for the NE.

When I was driving I was hoping to buy one of the handles, not wanting to be greedy and wanting everything they have for symbolic money, I didn't expect them to put up 4, but was very grateful for it.

I'm going to keep one of the OE handles myself (the one that may have been used) (I don't have any myself), buy an NE switch panel + a rear heater, it's going to take a while before I get projects in that we can strip for flywheels and generators, the last one we can use from 550's. But flywheels are going to take time since 346/353 had unique ones for the series.

One day the three sets will be complete and will be given away to three in this thread.

At least you'll be able to warm up your hands, after pulling up anchor an heading to the next fishing spot.

 

[maulhead]

so he isnt too smart either

Probably more money in selling ford parts, than other brands.

On that note, he sounds smart.

 

[Mastermind]

Probably more money in selling ford parts, than other brands.

On that note, he sounds smart.

He is smart. Very smart.

 

[Loony661]

View attachment 444505

Bingo.

I always wanted to build a “mock-BOSS”. I had a 302 block I clearance’d for a 347 stroker crank. I wanted to slap 2V Cleveland heads on it, and throw it in a Fox Body.. But life happened and I ended up selling the project. That would have been a high-rpm engine.

 

[Stump Shot]

Probably more money in selling ford parts, than other brands.

On that note, he sounds smart.

He is smart. Very smart.

What does that @dall then?