Not So Pro 3

[lehman live edge slab]

lol i forgot yesterday

so he isnt too smart either

On the contrary if he could make an m series run well he was probably pretty smart. My uncle put 3 or 4 400’s in his wrecker before going 460 and I had an 81 ford 351m f-250 that didn’t do real well

 

[Firewood Hoarder]

I was an engine machinist at TMeyer Inc in Fairmont, MN for a couple years. He let me do the dyno time for free, on the weekend. I would work my shift building engines for the business, then come back after supper and work on my own engines until almost midnight, most days of the week.

I was a dyno machinist and assembler at Powertest Inc. in Sussex, WI for 5 years from 2011 to 2016. I had a chance to machine and build nearly everything we made while I was there. I attended the Perfomance Racing Industry show in 2014 as an exhibitor for Stuska Dyno to help sell our product, which was an awesome experience.

We manufactured engine, chassis, and transmission/hydraulic test systems from scratch. I learned alot there, but the ownership and management genuinely looked down on us shop floor pee-ons. I found something better, and moved on to greener pastures(twice as green at this point). Its cool to see stuff in the wild I may have worked on from time to time.

 

[Loony661]

lol i forgot yesterday

so he isnt too smart either

He was, different.

As big a ford guy as I am the 351m and 400 are probably some of my least favorite engines. The 351c on the other hand was great till it got modified for emissions into the 351m.

The 351 and 400 M’s can make huge power. What limited them, was emissions junk. Eliminate that, and they are just another V8. And there’s more aftermarket support for them now, than there ever was.

I've been talking with Tim some lately about his Ford 400 pistons. He is working on some high quality flat tappets for Ford engines now. I'm going to be swapping the Windsor engine in my 83 F350 for a built 400....

Tim is a smart guy. And he’s passionate about those 400’s. The core’s are cheap to acquire, and those kits Tim has built, are high quality. I think you would be happy with one. Next time you talk to him, tell him Hi from me.

On the contrary if he could make an m series run well he was probably pretty smart. My uncle put 3 or 4 400’s in his wrecker before going 460 and I had an 81 ford 351m f-250 that didn’t do real well

He is not stupid. He can make them run. We built one that made around 740 hp for a 9’ chassis’ asphalt pulling tractor. That was a fun one.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I was an engine machinist at TMeyer Inc in Fairmont, MN for a couple years. He let me do the dyno time for free, on the weekend. I would work my shift building engines for the business, then come back after supper and work on my own engines until almost midnight, most days of the week. TMeyer no longer builds engines I guess, he ventured into machining niche Ford parts and having aluminum and also cast iron blocks made for the C and M series engines. His claim to fame was his 434 stroker kit for the 351M and 400M engines.

Wouldn’t doubt your old boss would have known a ford builder from up here named Ernie broughtham. Did tons of wissotoa engines along with many others definitely the smartest ford guy in northern mn at the time. He had a 429 boss when engine on the floor of his shop when I was a kid and used to own a thunderbolt back in the day.

 

[Loony661]

I was a dyno machinist and assembler at Powertest Inc. in Sussex, WI for 5 years from 2011 to 2016. I had a chance to machine and build nearly everything we made while I was there. I attended the Perfomance Racing Industry show in 2014 as an exhibitor for Stuska Dyno to help sell our product, which was an awesome experience.

We manufactured engine, chassis, and transmission/hydraulic test systems from scratch. I learned alot there, but the ownership and management genuinely looked down on us shop floor pee-ons. I found something better, and moved on to greener pastures(twice as green at this point). Its cool to see stuff in the wild I may have worked on from time to time.

That’s cool. Tim had owned this dyno a few years by the time I got there in 2010 or so. I was able to attend PRI in Orlando in 2007 or 2008, I can’t quite remember. And that was definitely a cool experience.

 

[dall]

On the contrary if he could make an m series run well he was probably pretty smart. My uncle put 3 or 4 400’s in his wrecker before going 460 and I had an 81 ford 351m f-250 that didn’t do real well

lol i was just tormenting you

 

[Mastermind]

Tim is a smart guy. And he’s passionate about those 400’s. The core’s are cheap to acquire, and those kits Tim has built, are high quality. I think you would be happy with one. Next time you talk to him, tell him Hi from me.

Mike (glock37) gave me a 400 that he built about 25 years ago. Never fired. On an engine stand in his basement. I owned a few back in the day and was never impressed by them. After all the work Mike put into this engine, I was interested in learning more about the 400. Naturally, I found Tim right away.....

 

[lehman live edge slab]

lol i was just tormenting you

I know, if you weren’t if think something was wrong with you

 

[maulhead]

Good morning men, 45 going to the mid 50's. Rain from this afternoon on to Monday. It will be a warm rain though. May be done hunting for the year, unless I get out new years day. Stay safe all.

Wouldn't new years day, be next year?

 

[Lnk]

A 30th 307 plus a chrome pumpkin? This bish has to be fast.
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Wow, had it bored over, and had new pistons too. I guess he didn't want the old pistons slap rattling around in the 30th's bores.

 

[Lnk]

Well, it is 2 more than a 305..

2 30th's more.

 

[Stump Shot]

I owned a few back in the day and was never impressed by them.

I had the same experience. Under a 100,000th mile and the mains were knocking. A 1970 390 I procured; went in a lot of trucks I owned over the years. Now all that Big Block stuff is dried up and big money, back then it was everywhere, and folks were giving it away.

 

[Loony661]

Mike (glock37) gave me a 400 that he built about 25 years ago. Never fired. On an engine stand in his basement. I owned a few back in the day and was never impressed by them. After all the work Mike put into this engine, I was interested in learning more about the 400. Naturally, I found Tim right away.....

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They can be made into a very strong and reliable power plant.

From a machinists perspective, all V8’s are just V8’s. Each brand has its different approach to how the heads are laid out, and that pretty much the only difference between them. 2 bolt, 4 bolt, doesn’t much matter at street power levels. They all run essentially the same. It’s just finding what each brand and series likes for the combination of head volume, and camshaft.

That being said, in the muscle era, obviously the big brands were racing to make the most power. It’s no secret that Mopar made more HP per cubic inch than any other V8 when they debuted the Hemi. Aside from that, they are all expensive to make high HP with. People used to argue that the SBC was the cheapest V8 to build. They weren’t wrong when talking about a budget build for the grocery getter. Once you start putting forged cranks and pistons etc into them for racing, they aren’t any cheaper. Pick what you want to run, and go with it.

 

[Stump Shot]

Wouldn't new years day, be next year?

Only for @Kiwioilboiler he's a day ahead.

 

[Loony661]

I’ll add that aftermarket support, and the internet, has made it a lot easier to build engines of all types and sizes. So thanks Al Gore. Lol

 

[Lnk]

Wouldn't new years day, be next year?

Yup, you are right. So I guess I am done for the year. Good catch.

 

[Firewood Hoarder]

That’s cool. Tim had owned this dyno a few years by the time I got there in 2010 or so. I was able to attend PRI in Orlando in 2007 or 2008, I can’t quite remember. And that was definitely a cool experience.

I missed out on the show in Orlando; I got to go to Indianapolis which aint quite the same. Our salesman got banned from trailering the exhibit dyno setup the last time the show was in Florida, because he drove from Wisconsin to Florida and back with a 2" ball in a 2 5/16" trailer coupler.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I had the same experience. Under a 100,000th mile and the mains were knocking. A 1970 390 I procured; went in a lot of trucks I owned over the years. Now all that Big Block stuff is dried up and big money, back then it was everywhere, and folks were giving it away.

I still like fe blocks, dad had a 74 ford 390 4bbl with 4:11 posi rear he bought new when he was building the house. Thing liked gas but he had like 240,000 on it when the frame gave up. Motor went in a neighbors truck after that and I have no idea the miles at death.

 

[nbbt]

Good morning pushrods. Full day of drizzles with a froggy 38f going to a bit over 40f later.

 

[Stump Shot]

They can be made into a very strong and reliable power plant.

From a machinists perspective, all V8’s are just V8’s. Each brand has its different approach to how the heads are laid out, and that pretty much the only difference between them. 2 bolt, 4 bolt, doesn’t much matter at street power levels. They all run essentially the same. It’s just finding what each brand and series likes for the combination of head volume, and camshaft.

That being said, in the muscle era, obviously the big brands were racing to make the most power. It’s no secret that Mopar made more HP per cubic inch than any other V8 when they debuted the Hemi. Aside from that, they are all expensive to make high HP with. People used to argue that the SBC was the cheapest V8 to build. They weren’t wrong when talking about a budget build for the grocery getter. Once you start putting forged cranks and pistons etc into them for racing, they aren’t any cheaper. Pick what you want to run, and go with it.

Hemi's were cheap in comparison to the only thing that would beat it on the drag strip, the 427sohc. The cost for the parts to do so was another matter altogether and this is what let the Chrysler design stay competitive. So, it's all perspective, I guess.
You can find pretty looking SBC parts in every damn store across this great land. Why we called them dime store motors. With all the other available options left to us back then, it was easier to find the biggest bulk of a motor and stuff it into whatever you could come up with for a body. Those guys with the pretty looking SBCth never stood a chance. We didn't have a lot of money back in the 80th, but we had fun.