New 562 xp

[Crane]

Please tell me more about the Stihl 362.

I need a saw that starts and runs without having to be a mechanic.
Nothing ported, or hopped up.
Just a good saw I can count on, day in, day out, 30° F or 90° F.

I've had a 044 for twenty five years, single saw plan, five to eight cord per year personal use.
Then bought an 021 for limbing trees bulldozed into a pile to make way for ten poly houses for Rhododendrums. The 044 was too grabby.
044 had trigger parts failure and none available.
Bought the Husqvarna 357 eleven years ago.
Bought a seldom used 066 off a friend.
Trashed the 066 dropping a tree. Sat the tree on it, wiped off the handle, gas tank, and oil tank.
Bought a 661,to replace the 066.
Bought the 562 to replace the 357.
Using the 661 to cut 4"-12" dia. on the log deck. It's too big, it's too heavy, it's a lot of pull on the shoulder even with decomp. to start 25-30 times per day for a cord of wood.
The 357 was perfect, if not for running issues when hot.
Same with 562.

The 661 does not seem to have start/run issues when hot, which brings me back to Stihl.
362???

The shop early on suggested a battery powered Stihl.
In part because of the way I cut.
I can not imagine battery power being anything like a 4.5 hp saw.

Pick the 562 up tomorrow morning, Thursday, June 11, 2020.

 

[huskyboy]

I would recommend a dolmar/makita 6100 over a ms362 for a 60cc saw. It’s cheaper and runs better stock. Takes the same bar mount as your 357xp so you don’t have to buy all new bars. The saw is reliable and you can order parts online. Easy to start. No mtronic solenoid bs, has a adjustable carb.

 

[Crane]

I'm not sure there is a local dealer for Dolmar/Makita.
I'll have to check...

 

[Johnmn]

I'm not sure there is a local dealer for Dolmar/Makita.
I'll have to check...

Could buy one from @166 or buy a used saw from a member here

 

[wap13]

I know its not really in the same class as the 362/562 but I'd look right past the 362 and get a 462. Not a lot more bulk or weight for a lot more woopow. But if youre set on 60 ccs and the 562 aint getting it done I'd look at the 362 I guess. Or am echo 620p if dolkita is out.

 

[Woodpecker]

If you like the 044 and your current 661, you will likely be happy with the 362. The updated version is a very good saw that many people are pretty happy with. I don't really care for the 60cc saw class myself. I usually either grab a 50cc or a larger 70-90cc( Dolmar 7910 is a favorite) saw as the task requires. If it was me I would also take a very hard look at a ms462. Pretty hard to pass up the 70cc power in a 60cc size package as long as it's in your budget.

 

[Crane]

Thanks for the responses.
I basically have a three saw plan. 021; 357; 661.
I used to get tree service wood and split with a TW-6.
I no longer get the larger tree service wood, and sold the TW-6.
I no longer scrounge for personal wood, so the 021, 661 and LogRite log arch rarely get used.
Just no point in selling them.
Basically a one saw plan again, using an 18" bar cutting on the two log decks.

We had a wind storm yesterday that dropped trees across the road, and the neighbors across the street had a large Beech uprooted, brushed their propane tank, missed the house and well, but took the power line down to the house.
She came running over in the rain having smelled smoke, and I called 911.
Margaret gave her dry clothes.
The fire department also smelled smoke, shut the power and propane off.
I'll put a 25" bar on the 661 today and move the root ball and trunk away from the house with the forklift.
First, going to pick up the 562. They also carry Stihl, so I'll take a look and see what we can do with the 562 fair weather saw.

 

[Johnmn]

Thanks for the responses.
I basically have a three saw plan. 021; 357; 661.
I used to get tree service wood and split with a TW-6.
I no longer get the larger tree service wood, and sold the TW-6.
I no longer scrounge for personal wood, so the 021, 661 and LogRite log arch rarely get used.
Just no point in selling them.
Basically a one saw plan again, using an 18" bar cutting on the two log decks.

We had a wind storm yesterday that dropped trees across the road, and the neighbors across the street had a large Beech uprooted, brushed their propane tank, missed the house and well, but took the power line down to the house.
She came running over in the rain having smelled smoke, and I called 911.
Margaret gave her dry clothes.
The fire department also smelled smoke, shut the power and propane off.
I'll put a 25" bar on the 661 today and move the root ball and trunk away from the house with the forklift.
First, going to pick up the 562. They also carry Stihl, so I'll take a look and see what we can do with the 562 fair weather saw.

18 inch bar saw I'd be looking at a Stihl 261 carb version or a dolmar 5105

 

[Stump Shot]

Thanks for the responses.
I basically have a three saw plan. 021; 357; 661.
I used to get tree service wood and split with a TW-6.
I no longer get the larger tree service wood, and sold the TW-6.
I no longer scrounge for personal wood, so the 021, 661 and LogRite log arch rarely get used.
Just no point in selling them.
Basically a one saw plan again, using an 18" bar cutting on the two log decks.

We had a wind storm yesterday that dropped trees across the road, and the neighbors across the street had a large Beech uprooted, brushed their propane tank, missed the house and well, but took the power line down to the house.
She came running over in the rain having smelled smoke, and I called 911.
Margaret gave her dry clothes.
The fire department also smelled smoke, shut the power and propane off.
I'll put a 25" bar on the 661 today and move the root ball and trunk away from the house with the forklift.
First, going to pick up the 562. They also carry Stihl, so I'll take a look and see what we can do with the 562 fair weather saw.

Find something you can cut for a good five minutes or more straight and run the heck out of that saw without break, this should get your autotune carb to set itself right.

 

[huskihl]

I have a Dolmar (might be a red Makita) 6100 without much use on it that I’d let go of if you’re interested. Could possibly work out a trade on either of your other 2.

 

[cuinrearview]

I have a Dolmar (might be a red Makita) 6100 without much use on it that I’d let go of if you’re interested. Could possibly work out a trade on either of your other 2.

If he came up to East Jordan in Sept he could probably try out most of the models being thrown around.

 

[Woodpecker]

I have a Dolmar (might be a red Makita) 6100 without much use on it that I’d let go of if you’re interested. Could possibly work out a trade on either of your other 2.

If he came up to East Jordan in Sept he could probably try out most of the models being thrown around.

Best answers.

 

[Crane]

I looked up Dolmar and searched for a local dealer.
It kicked me over to Makita's circular saws, sawzall's (reciprocating saws, etc.).
Finally located (online) a dealer in Plainwell, MI about thirty five miles south of me.

The Husqvarna dealer offered to work with me, but he did not have the 362.
The 562 now has some road time in the back of the truck, and four to five cord cutting time.
Stopped at another Stihl dealer, yard care equipment, etc. Busy place, and no 362 on the shelf. Did not stand in line to talk to someone.

Question:
This morning a buddy suggested not shutting it off, and letting the 562 idle while splitting ten rounds of wood.
I never considered that.
Would idling cool the saw down, or heat it up more, if idling for three to five minutes?

(Just called the dealer. He said that's fine but no more than three minutes as air flow is reduced.)

 

[cuinrearview]

There's a Dolmar guy in Wayland too.

 

[Ford3000]

The Dolmar or Makita 6100 will give you way less trouble, they are ideal
for the work you are doing, they are also good on fuel, use Oregon sprocket
and bars, the carb is from one of the big manufacturers too, the saws are reliable,
lots of them sold, plenty of parts available too.

Echo 590 or 620 are also excellent saws, even the big box stores sell the 590,
it’s the best bang for your money too, the main difference between the 590 and
620 is the plastic versus some metal parts, the clutch sprocket is a rim drive on
the 620, it also has some more power, I doubt you would miss it, carbs coils are
different too, but as far as cutting wood and lasting, both will stick the course.

I had a new 362, it was too hard to start from day one, didn’t fancy spending time
waiting for it to come back from the dealers with the nothing wrong sticker, and paying for the privilege, sold it in less than a week, hard sell as the viewers wanted to know why it took so long to start.
If you do go Stihl, the others who mentioned going for the 462 are 100% right,
it is light for its size, but it will use more fuel if that matters to you.

Either way, you have plenty of options, there are Dolmar / Makita and Echo dealers on here, I’d imagine Stihl as well.
You could muffler mod your 562, cut some holes to help cool it, and put a heat shield between the engine and the carb, it may also help to tip the saw on its side and leave the fuel cap loose,
let any saw idle for 30 seconds before turning it off, and keep it in a cool shaded spot.
Good quality two stroke oil also helps keep a saw cool when running in High temperatures,
even Honda used Yamalube back in the day, keeping your engine lubed will keep friction and thus heat down, heat kills saws.

 

[Crane]

Ha, stayed in a rv park in East Jordan by a blinker light in town. We made reservations and wanted to be near Charlexvois (spelling), having never seen the rv park. There was a baseball game till 1:00 am with loud speakers and full lighting 500' away, and trucks with exhaust brakes slowing to the red blinker light, and then gearing up, all night long. Beautiful area though, and Margaret found an Alpaca farm, processing wool place for spinning. There is a foundry there, and I assume they make manhole castings and covers.

I'm using Stihl HD Ultra mix.

Frustrating day so I took a break from regular cutting. I did clear some limb blowdowns on trails next door at a nature sanctuary with the 021.

I did wonder if I could remove the 562 black badge on the top of the cover, revealing some vent holes.
Or run it without the cover.
But, it's a brand new saw...

$750.for a saw and tax. It sucks, and I'm having a hard time moving on from it.
It's not even the money.
I don't even want to look at the saw.
If I can't start, and finish, the day with it... it doesn't rate a place on the shelf at night.
Would you drive a car like that?

 

[Skeans1]

When I got my 562 I was told for break in to put the longest bar on you have and find something big that it can be run full throttle for at least 3 minutes or longer.

This was break in on that saw and it’s never given me issues even in almost triple digit temps.


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[Crane]

Neighbors had a bad day yesterday.
The area experienced a heavy rain and wind storm.
The fire department showed up after the Beech tree ripped the house wires down and smelling smoke inside. The propane tank got bumped off the blocks, but missed the well head. Shut down propane and electric. Electrician had to replace the electric mast head before power could be restored, and the propane tank checked and reset.
We lost the top out of two trees. One dropped across the road, which is a dead end road. The fire department opened one lane and continued to the neighbors house. I move the rest out of the road with the fork lift.

 

[redlight066]

[QUOTE="
Question:
This morning a buddy suggested not shutting it off, and letting the 562 idle while splitting ten rounds of wood.
I never considered that.
Would idling cool the saw down, or heat it up more, if idling for three to five minutes?

(Just called the dealer. He said that's fine but no more than three minutes as air flow is reduced.)[/QUOTE]

I would not suggest letting the Auto Tune saws idle excessively. They will over correct and become sluggish if left to idle for a minute or two. Excessive partial throttle operation will throw off the fuel settings as well. Joe @Onan18 please chime in here.

Like Steve said, run it like you stole it for 5 minutes. If you're still having issues your dealer can't solve, I'd be happy to hook it up to the service tool and give it a once over for free. You'll have to cover shipping here, I'll cover the ride back. This 562xp should be one of your go to saws.

 

[Woodpecker]

[QUOTE="
Question:
This morning a buddy suggested not shutting it off, and letting the 562 idle while splitting ten rounds of wood.
I never considered that.
Would idling cool the saw down, or heat it up more, if idling for three to five minutes?

(Just called the dealer. He said that's fine but no more than three minutes as air flow is reduced.)

I would not suggest letting the Auto Tune saws idle excessively. They will over correct and become sluggish if left to idle for a minute or two. Excessive partial throttle operation will throw off the fuel settings as well. Joe @Onan18 please chime in here.

Like Steve said, run it like you stole it for 5 minutes. If you're still having issues your dealer can't solve, I'd be happy to hook it up to the service tool and give it a once over for free. You'll have to cover shipping here, I'll cover the ride back. This 562xp should be one of your go to saws.[/QUOTE]

Helluva offer there. Good on ya!