New 562 xp

[Farmchuck]

That made me smile.
Today was good. (Saturday, 06/13/200
Almost all single pull starts.
Did a cord and a good bit of junk wood tossed in the row pack again. That make about a half cord of junk wood this week.
(It's actually all pretty good wood, just a bit short. We will keep it and burn it.)
I've run about a gallon and a half of fuel through the 562. Mixed up fresh today but not into it yet.
I too have not kept notes.

I’m glad to hear it’s running like a new saw should. Aggravating to lay out hard earned money on new equipment only to have it disappoint .

 

[Ford3000]

I think someone said shutting off these saws causes them NOT to save their latest
working parameters, best to let them run 10 seconds before shutting down.

 

[Crane]

What did the dealer do to the saw?

I don't really know. (I feel stupid saying so.)
Did not get a chance to speak with the mechanic.
I was going to look at a 362 but none in stock.
I was open to looking at a battery saw, but none in stock.

I'm settling into what I have, and see what hotter weather brings.
Several have peaked my interest in Dolmar.
I would certainly look at one before buying anything.
The four saws I have is one too many for a three saw plan.

I am letting it idle before shut off, but am pretty certain it has been shy of ten second.
Maybe close. I'll have to pay more attention.
I no longer kill it after the cut, instead setting it on the nursery wagon near the back of the splitter, then bumping the shut off. Five seconds, maybe eight seconds. Three or for steps, and set it down.

 

[Woodpecker]

The four saws I have is one too many for a three saw plan.

Sounds like your on your way to the 5,6,or 7 saw plan...

 

[Farmchuck]

I don't really know. (I feel stupid saying so.)
Did not get a chance to speak with the mechanic.
I was going to look at a 362 but none in stock.
I was open to looking at a battery saw, but none in stock.

I'm settling into what I have, and see what hotter weather brings.
Several have peaked my interest in Dolmar.
I would certainly look at one before buying anything.
The four saws I have is one too many for a three saw plan.

I am letting it idle before shut off, but am pretty certain it has been shy of ten second.
Maybe close. I'll have to pay more attention.
I no longer kill it after the cut, instead setting it on the nursery wagon near the back of the splitter, then bumping the shut off. Five seconds, maybe eight seconds. Three or for steps, and set it down.

Keep us posted on how she’s running please.

 

[Crane]

I've heard folks say after X number of tanks of fuel there is an increase of oumph... or whatever.
I never knew what they were talking about.
Yesterday was a high in the mid 70°.
Saw started and ran fine.
Several times it felt like....(????) Wow!

There used to be a BMW automobile commercial, of the Autobon..."Where the BMW runs free."
Well, that's what it felt, and sounded like.

 

[Ford3000]

Good to hear things are improving.

 

[Crane]

Milk shake time....

88° today, and the saw is starting/running well.
I attribute that to all the suggestions posted here.

Last week I was completely disgusted with this saw.
I spoke with the shop and told them I did not want this saw if I could not count on it to finish out the day.
Asked them to get back with me on what we could agree on.
Late yesterday I was cutting, he called and left a message to get back with him.

This morning I told him I had been blogging and got some help, that the saw was running fine.
I continued to use it each day this week as temps ranged from 70° to low 80°s.
I've shaded the saw and fuel, and let it idle before shut off.
And I'm not using the decompression after initial cold start.
On cold start it searches on the first cut, full power after that.
The same after an extended break, second cut is full power.

This is a nice size saw with a quick trigger.
Huge upgrade in anti vibration over my eleven year old 357.

I think vapor lock was the issue, and not the auto tune as smokey 7 alluded to.
The learning curve of a new to me saw was probably a big factor as well.
Thanks also for the auto tune education by others, for future use.
Back to cutting, and end of thread for now.
Greatly appreciate the help.
You guys are fantastic for sharing your knowledge.

 

[smokey7]

Very good that you got it to perform properly. Also that you actually took all suggestions to heart and listened to all and made changes to see what helped.

 

[woodfarmer]

Great thread, I too picked up a used on with 2012 build. Typically I don’t cut too much after the end of March, but due to Covid I’m still cutting. We had a couple 90* days that I go no where near a saw. @huskyboy turned me on to the vapour lock, I researched it and sure enough that’s what it was. Good saw that I’ll probably end up getting it ported too.

 

[Crane]

I forgot to note the fuel bulb, which none of my other saws have.
I used this too, as suggested to recirculate cooler fuel from the tank, and I'm sure it helps.

I typically do not cut during July do to high temps.
We are getting some spikes in June.
I'm still cutting because I have two 20 cord loads of logs on order and I need to clear the load I'm working on to have a place to put them.
I have room for three loads, but one spot is behind the other. So two loads on one side of the drive and one on the other. I'm working on finishing the far load, which will clear that side of the drive for the coming two loads.
Then I can jump across the drive and start on that load while waiting for delivery.

There is a four to six week lag this time of year from ordering logs to delivery.
In August/Sept. the lead time gets much, much longer.
The plan is to order one more load, maybe two, so I have logs to start on in the spring before road frost limits are lifted.

 

[huskyboy]

Great thread, I too picked up a used on with 2012 build. Typically I don’t cut too much after the end of March, but due to Covid I’m still cutting. We had a couple 90* days that I go no where near a saw. @huskyboy turned me on to the vapour lock, I researched it and sure enough that’s what it was. Good saw that I’ll probably end up getting it ported too.

The 562 is one model I wouldn’t recommend to a guy to port. Just a good proper muffler mod to eliminate baffling that holds heat. Put heat tape on critical areas and maybe tighten the squish a bit. Porting makes them run too hot in the summer.

 

[Crane]

About three cords to go on the right.

 

[woodfarmer]

Mine is 2012 3200243. 05-00 xpgw
So what can anyone tell me about this saw?

 

[Willard]

I bought my 2012 562 new and never had the auto tune updated at the dealer.
I only did a muffler mod.
Always been my go to saw but not in temps in the 80's with humidity. Saw always needed to be started on fast idle even in normal lower temps.

This weird CoVid 19 year is my busiest tree service year ever and doing work now in the 80s with lots of humidity.
Best thing I found for hot start issues is added a top cover vent to the top cover like the new saws have but made it double the size.
The change is huge starting on the first pull without fast idle. On tolerable 80's days with humidity 2nd pull may be needed.

 

[I saw a lot]

Was using my 562xp a couple weeks ago. Went through about 2/3 tank when I was sitting it down to roll the log. It died and guessed it was low on fuel. When I filled it I could see the fuel was boiling inside the tank, upper 80's to around 90f day. Finished the job with my 365sp. Love the saw and I think @jacob j. did a great job rebuilding it. I thank him everyday I use it. Should check to see if the muffler is modified or not.

Thank you Jacob.

 

[jacob j.]

Should check to see if the muffler is modified or not.

Your muffler should be stock as I didn't have any extras at the time. It would be easy enough to get it modified though and it does help even
though the 555/562s get to be quite loud depending on how the mufflers are modified.

 

[Willard]

Was using my 562xp a couple weeks ago. Went through about 2/3 tank when I was sitting it down to roll the log. It died and guessed it was low on fuel. When I filled it I could see the fuel was boiling inside the tank, upper 80's to around 90f day.

I wonder if your tank vent was giving you issues. When you removed the fuel cap the vacuum surge caused the bubbles.

I've seen lots of fuel boiling in a alloy crankcase fuel tank but never in a poly thermal isolated tank.

 

[kneedeepinsaws]

As much as I agree with you guys about how to get a husky autotune saw to run/calibrate correctly....... I don't think it will make any difference with a vapor lock. Try some truefuel and see if you are still having the problem. Also your dealer should be able to tell you what your stats of the saw are.... Like carb temp betting it is a higher then normal number. My brother has a 555 and has never had a hot restart issue.

If you read this document
http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/GenuinePartsCompany/2043319pdf
It is the msds for 50:1 trufuel.
Section 9 states its properties including boiling point, which is rather low. Lower than pump gas unless I am not understanding something.
This IMO would be a worse choice to vapor lock than regular gas, again if im reading it correctly. I have to assume that 34C boiling point range to 190C is based on atmospheric pressure to some other pressure. But it doesnt say...


I have a 562xp 2020 model. Mine will absolutely not hot start if turned off on a hot day after some high rpm bucking if left for more than 3-6 minutes or so.
Purge bulb does not function and everything that everyone with this issue reports is what I have experienced.

there are some tricks that I want to try in a somewhat controlled experiment that require little work to see where exactly this hot start issue starts from

1. run the saw hard on a hot day with no wind, recreate the hot start issue by waiting 5-10 minutes. Restarts will always be done with decomp out or ‘not engaged’ This is the control

the variables are
- Shut off the saw with the choke only, repeat the control

-shut off the saw with the kill switch, remove the top cover and leave off, repeat the control

-install a vacuum cap and plug for the purge line, leaving them in place and repeat the control.

im gonna try it this weekend.

*edit*
In case someone is wondering about the choke variable, I have read someone doing this to correct hot start issues but cannot remember where I read it. IMO it is a good idea to try and may block hot air currents coming from cylinder up to the carb causing the fuel to vapour lock in the pump and or diaphragm area of the carb...

 

[kneedeepinsaws]

I also have to say that my 562xp has about 8 tanks through it, 3 of which it was milled hard earlier this year with a 28” bar.