Most overrated chainsaw of 2020?

[RI Chevy]

Lol. Troof...

 

[huskyboy]

The 572 is everything the 576 should have been.

… and with a little work it’ll smoke a stock 390xp.

The tables turn though after the 390 gets some work though. Especially in harder wood. But the 572 does good for 70cc.

 

[hseII]

Most overrated saws of 2020?

572xp
MS400
MS462CM
MS500i


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[StihlMagnum440]

462 is alright, my 572 is a problem child, I like the 500i but its crazy money. They're all overrated because they all do the same thing.

Put a sharp chain on each and depending on the size of wood etc there

Same damn thing!

Stihl products are ridiculously overrated and therefore Stihl is able to charge them stupidly overpriced!

Now, I know You are a Stihl guy and that is fine by me.
We don't have to like the same saw brand just as we don't need to have the same taste in women.

I am a Stihl owner...and for my 2 cents...you are correct. It is getting out of hand for saws and forget the parts prices.

 

[Wilhelm]

. . . I am a Stihl owner...and for my 2 cents...you are correct. It is getting out of hand for saws and forget the parts prices.

Nothing wrong with Stihl products, but they are NOT worth a fortune.

I know what OEM Stihl parts cost. Everything Stihl is significantly more expensive here in Croatia than elsewhere too.

To each their own, go with what fits Your needs and expectations.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

What I want to see now is the same timber cutter or heavy use production firewood cutter get 4 saws in the 70cc class. 2 Stihl 462’s and 2 572 huskies. See an overall cost of ownership study add up the costs of the saw and parts to make a certain amount of hours on each saw including the price of saw. With mtronic and auto tune we can now track hours so it would be fairly easy to do. The stihls would start out in a hole because they cost more but over the say 1500 hours would they even back out in repairs or not?

 

[dave53223]

Ms 500i

 

[pbillyi69]

my cousin was a professional timber cutter for more than 20 years and when he started he only ran stihl and if they didnt get damaged by something like a tree smashing them or some other accident they would last roughly 6 to 7 months before the first repair trip to the shop for what ever. he ran them for the first few years stating that huskys were unreliable. he eventually switched for that reason only it was the stihls at some point along the way when he had to buy a new saw he got a husky and had a stihl as a back up saw and discovered that it was not only more comfortable to run because of the spring antivibe orver the rubber but they went longer before they needed to go to the shop by several months. at the end of his career or i should say when he came out of the woods to do easier work all of his saws were husky because they were more durable and lasted longer before breakdown. i dont have actual dollar amounts and im not trying to cause the stihl vs husky debate that is just a real world daily six hours of solid cutting five days a week because six hours is all the longer they are allowed to work for fatigue and safety reasons

 

[so il logger]

If a stihl won't hold up to a fella more than 6-7 months without needing repairs then a husky ain't gonna make the 3 month mark. And i am not biased at all, i run them both. YMMV and all that *s-word

 

[so il logger]

With that said, it seems to me that since stihl has transitioned to spring mounts the case material has became more prone to breakage. All in the name of saving weight i'm sure. Have not had any issues with this on a 500i yet but they seem to be as flimsy as 661 in that area, especially around the av locator pocket from the handle bar mount. 395 husky have case issues at the front rubber grommet below the oil tank and the rear portion of the inner clutch side breaks off leaving the a/v vulnerable. Once both are compromised then the vibration really ramps up and stuff falls off daily. All i can think is my dad is lucky i broke in with a 066/660 platform

 

[StihlMagnum440]

If a stihl won't hold up to a fella more than 6-7 months without needing repairs then a husky ain't gonna make the 3 month mark. And i am not biased at all, i run them both. YMMV and all that *s-word

Run the dickens out of my Stihl 440 and has needed nothing really in 14 years. My Dad ran his Huskies with no problems. Pro saws usually hold up well no matter what brand. Tree farm and some logging use. All saws were regular maintenance and stored in heated space but no extra special attention.

 

[StihlMagnum440]

With that said, it seems to me that since stihl has transitioned to spring mounts the case material has became more prone to breakage. All in the name of saving weight i'm sure. Have not had any issues with this on a 500i yet but they seem to be as flimsy as 661 in that area, especially around the av locator pocket from the handle bar mount. 395 husky have case issues at the front rubber grommet below the oil tank and the rear portion of the inner clutch side breaks off leaving the a/v vulnerable. Once both are compromised then the vibration really ramps up and stuff falls off daily. All i can think is my dad is lucky i broke in with a 066/660 platform

Those are some big saws...you must be cutting some serious wood.

 

[StihlMagnum440]

my cousin was a professional timber cutter for more than 20 years and when he started he only ran stihl and if they didnt get damaged by something like a tree smashing them or some other accident they would last roughly 6 to 7 months before the first repair trip to the shop for what ever. he ran them for the first few years stating that huskys were unreliable. he eventually switched for that reason only it was the stihls at some point along the way when he had to buy a new saw he got a husky and had a stihl as a back up saw and discovered that it was not only more comfortable to run because of the spring antivibe orver the rubber but they went longer before they needed to go to the shop by several months. at the end of his career or i should say when he came out of the woods to do easier work all of his saws were husky because they were more durable and lasted longer before breakdown. i dont have actual dollar amounts and im not trying to cause the stihl vs husky debate that is just a real world daily six hours of solid cutting five days a week because six hours is all the longer they are allowed to work for fatigue and safety reasons

Had Huskies and Stihl on tree farm and logging. Pro saws...both brands held up equally. Would take either one of them.

 

[StihlMagnum440]

What I want to see now is the same timber cutter or heavy use production firewood cutter get 4 saws in the 70cc class. 2 Stihl 462’s and 2 572 huskies. See an overall cost of ownership study add up the costs of the saw and parts to make a certain amount of hours on each saw including the price of saw. With mtronic and auto tune we can now track hours so it would be fairly easy to do. The stihls would start out in a hole because they cost more but over the say 1500 hours would they even back out in repairs or not?

Now that is what I would like to see also. Stock saws. I am interested in upgrading/updating from Stihl 440 to a 462. Not interested in watching vids of seeing how fast a guy can cut through a log or saws that have been modified that are all over the internet. I can see the fun of watching and participating in that sort of stuff but would find a study you propose to be actually useful. Good idea.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

my cousin was a professional timber cutter for more than 20 years and when he started he only ran stihl and if they didnt get damaged by something like a tree smashing them or some other accident they would last roughly 6 to 7 months before the first repair trip to the shop for what ever. he ran them for the first few years stating that huskys were unreliable. he eventually switched for that reason only it was the stihls at some point along the way when he had to buy a new saw he got a husky and had a stihl as a back up saw and discovered that it was not only more comfortable to run because of the spring antivibe orver the rubber but they went longer before they needed to go to the shop by several months. at the end of his career or i should say when he came out of the woods to do easier work all of his saws were husky because they were more durable and lasted longer before breakdown. i dont have actual dollar amounts and im not trying to cause the stihl vs husky debate that is just a real world daily six hours of solid cutting five days a week because six hours is all the longer they are allowed to work for fatigue and safety reasons

Dealers aready have this kind of information, they'll get those saws in and plug them up for diagnosis. Whether or not they'll share this information is debatable?
I feel like user input is key to longevity in alot of ways . Some people really take care of their equipment and some are terrible at it.
For example, most automotive batteries are made by one global conglomerate and have individual stickers put on them, but different people have different experiences with them , working on a farm I've rarely seen a strapped down battery. The battery bounces around in the tray being beat for 2-3 years until the cells collapse and fail. Yet everyone says that particular battery brand is "no good" .
I've got pro saws that were used and never maintained or cleaned, every fastener over tightened until stripped, including the spark plug.
In my experience the hands behind the trigger are the most important factor in longevity.

 

[afleetcommand]

The good thing about these discussions is every one is right. For my part, I like to break it down to models. Not just Stihl & Husqvarna, but over time there are several brands that produced excellent long lasting pro level saws,, AND the same brands produced some not so. TO add fuel to the fire ONE model from a brand or ONE year of a model that has teething issues can tarnish that brand for de4cades to come. Early 562 and 550mk 1's come to mind. Current versions are as solid as any saw. Same brand created L77's, the 61 thru 268 series and many others that can be brought back to a high level of function decades after they have been obsolete. First generation/oe 365/372's vs. early X-torqs' Stihl has their own models like that, but the Stihl community is typically more likely to to defend their chosen brand. 361's, first versions of 362 some of the M-tronic "sticky valve" issues. AND some of the old Stihls are timeless as Husqvarma's 200 series and first version 300's.I am a fan of the "hockey puck' anti vib era with saws like 660's, 440's even the home owner 270/390 series are just bullet proof. 660's being my personal favorite from that brand followed by 461's. The new stuff? WHICH of the new models do you think will be around long enough to be in the same "longevity" league as my L77 and 1978 Husqvarna model 61/272blend? Bet that 565 will. Prolly a 461 from Stihl.

 

[pbillyi69]

what did it for my cousing to buy the first husky was both of his saw were in the shop at the same time they were stihl 046s so he bought his first husky which at that time was 371xp i still have the 046s cases and an 044 that are in useable condition with a pile of parts needed. one of them the reason he quit using it is because it woukd shock the piss out of him in tbe rain it went to the shop several times they couldnt figure out why staing that everything was fine with it. i think it must have a cracked coil or something. it just a futre project now

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Dealers aready have this kind of information, they'll get those saws in and plug them up for diagnosis. Whether or not they'll share this information is debatable?
I feel like user input is key to longevity in alot of ways . Some people really take care of their equipment and some are terrible at it.
For example, most automotive batteries are made by one global conglomerate and have individual stickers put on them, but different people have different experiences with them , working on a farm I've rarely seen a strapped down battery. The battery bounces around in the tray being beat for 2-3 years until the cells collapse and fail. Yet everyone says that particular battery brand is "no good" .
I've got pro saws that were used and never maintained or cleaned, every fastener over tightened until stripped, including the spark plug.
In my experience the hands behind the trigger are the most important factor in longevity.

This was also why I figured it had to be the same cutter with all 4 saws so the treatment of saws and fuel would be the same.