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I appreciate that.

I do need to send you a better and more detailed explanation on the cutting board question. Now this is going to sound disrespectful but It is not meant to be in the least. I would like to draw you a picture of what I was trying to explain. I used to draw out all types of things in AutoCad but I just got the 2025 version and I am dumbfounded by it. I was used to using 2002 and 2006. I am totally lost. I drew a simple puller the other night and it took well over an hour and still looked like crap.
@Bill G , don't upgrade to something more complicated that does no better job than what You are used to! ;)

A former, now retired, coworker would constantly upgrade his work PC's AutoCad, he'd even download beta releases to his workstation.
Everytime he did he would no longer be able to crank out the technical parts processing drawings he was tasked to.
There would also be compatibility issues with other programs he'd extract the drawings to.
He always blamed the PC and other programs for all the issues he encountered, newer AutoCad.
He was one of those "stupid smart people", he knew some stuff but there were everyday things he never got a hang off.
 

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I got a bit to say about my love/hate for AutoCad but will have to wait I need to go see how the wheat is coming
 

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When I was in school we started out with board drafting using T-squares, triangles, and architects scales. There was no such thing as a computer for drafting. After you became accustomed to basic drafting we used the drafting machines. I am not sure how many remember those but they were great.

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After I left school for college they got computers and used the program called "Anvil" I went into teaching Agriculture and lost track of the Industrial Arts program. In 2000 I was driving over 500 miles a week to where I taught. I was considering taking the Industrial Arts job back home so I figured I had better learn something about the AutoCad stuff. I enrolled in a beginner level course and we used AutoCad 2000. I ended up staying in the school I was in teaching Agriculture and not utilizing the AutoCad.

Then in 2002 I left that district as it was turning very sour. I took a split teaching position between two different school districts. The first one had two full time guys. One only taught drafting. The other taught welding, maching, and woodworking. They needed a third man to teach additional sections of welding and basic woods but it was only in the morning. There was another district 10 miles east that was cutting back their program and just need a person to teach drafting and woodworking half days. I ended up teaching in both districts. I taught in one in the morning then drove like hell to the other to teach afternoons. I actually loved it. I was able to stay out of the politics of education and just say "hey I have to go". To add more to it neither of those districts were my home district. I actually was on the school board in my home district. I taught in Sherrard mornings, afternoons in Orion, and evenings at Rockridge for board meetings.

This is how starkly different schools are here. In Sherrard where I only taught welding and woodworking the drafting program was 100% AutoCad. There was not a T square in the place. In the afternoons at Orion where I had to teach drafting not only did we not have computers we did not even have drafting desks. We had to use actual 1960's ere drafting boards sey on top regular school desks. I ended up buy a bunch of enormous old drafting desks from Moline schools. I paid $1 each for them. The problem was they would not fit through the classroom door. I ended up putting them in the shop and using them there.

In 2006 the teacher in my home district decided to take a position for higher pay in a city school. I resigned my board seat and replaced him. He had a pretty decent set of old computers running Windows 98 or 2000. They had a site license for AutoCad 2002LT which of course is what they used. I found it to be very adequate for what I needed.......hell I had no idea what I needed but this dumb hick figured out how to run it a bit. I did get help from a few of senior students. My desktop also had a singe seat license for AutoCad 2006 but that was only bought by the previous teacher so he could learn it before going to the city school. The damn thing was $1500!

Well things went along fine running the old 2002LT. That was until the tech guy got a wild hair up his butt and replaced my computers with newer ones. I believe they were running Windows XP. Well AC2002LT will not run in XP!!! He destroyed my ability to teach any computer drafting. It was quite a battle. I did not teach it for a couple years. I ended up getting some sort of a free version of 2012 and muddled through it. Now granted all these years I still taught beginning level drafting with T squares and triangles. I was still using them when I left in 2018.
I now want to be able to draw on my home computer but all I could get was AutoCad 2025 and I cannot figure it out. Hell I could not even figure out how to change a line type or offset. I am frustrated but I will not give up.
 
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I probably should have kept that saw but I just never used it. You are the third owner or fourth however you want to define it. It was bought new here from the local Poulan dealer by the local state park. They had it for years and ended up trading it and about 5 other saws in on some new Stihls. I ended up with all the saws. I ran a couple tanks through the 505 and just put it away in about 2016. I did not touch it until I got ready to send it to you. I fueled it and fired it up. Of course the cursory piston pics and comp test but that was it. If you are happy I am happy
 

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It runs good, not so stock anymore, all I need to find a a wrap handle for it.
 

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Here is a rare pic of Bill in his younger days before he developed his fear of snakes. Immediately following this encounter, however, them suckers scared the crap out of him, making a lasting impression. (No known photos of said encounter after this pic are known to exist).

This is all true cuz I made it up and posted it on the intar-web.
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That made me spit out my pop.
I believe I was born with a fear of the slinky bastards. Years ago I worked for the Corp of Engineers at our local lock and dam. I had to crawl around in pits to grease and service machinery. There was nothing like meeting up with a damn snake in a pit. :mad: One of the shiftheads would pick them up and play with them while he made fun of me. I always got my revenge on him though. He was deathly scared of bees and wasps. When we would work together I would tell him ...WATCH OUT Bill there a wasp on your back!!!
 

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When I started with the Corp it was funny. I went in for my interview with ole Harvey. When I came out of the office the shift head Bill F looked at Harvey and said "Hell no you cannot hire Bill G we have enough damn Bills here". It was a 24-7-365 facility and only had 13 total employees. Of the 13 there were 4 of us named Bill. I worked straight days Monday through Friday. During the navigation season there were only a maximum of 7 of us on days. There are many times 4 of the 7 were Bill's. Harvey, Jim, and Howard were in the office so out on the wall locking boats or doing maintenance was Bill F, Bill L, Bill H, and Bill G.
 

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Sounds like they had a lot of bills to pay.
Yes they did and they paid us well........very well. I was in college full time when I started. I had been working a factory job 3rd shift 10PM to 6:30AM. I would get home in the morning wash up, and head to class. Then back home in the afternoon for some shut-eye and then off to work. It was not a bundle of fun. I had been trying to get a USCEC job since I was 16 with no luck. One afternoon I got the call to come down for an interview. I was hired on the spot. They paid tremendously better and allowed me to set me own schedule that was designed around my college course schedule. No nights or weekends. Anytime I was on vacation from college (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring, Summer) I worked full time. They even gave 4 hours of sick leave and 4 hours of annual leave per pay period. It was not based on hours worked either. I was amazed I got 13 days of sick leave and 13 days of annual leave per year. I stayed long enough that I had enough time in that it went to 6 hours of annual leave. For those that have worked a federal job you know what "use or lose is......the 240 hour bank. It was nice.
 
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