I killed my Tree Monkey 066 in 6 cuts

[angelo c]

Learning what running lean and rich sounds like is more important than using a tachometer for tuning. When the settings migrate from vibration or other problems occur you need to be able to immediately notice the difference in the way the saw sounds or nothing will save it but luck.

Amen to Brother Jim.

I might also add to learn what a "dull" chain( or file) cuts like....and avoid it.

 

[malk315]

Learning what running lean and rich sounds like is more important than using a tachometer for tuning. When the settings migrate from vibration or other problems occur you need to be able to immediately notice the difference in the way the saw sounds or nothing will save it but luck.

After I tune a saw I demand my brother or whoever run it and I'll stand 5 to 10 feet away and listen -- I can soooo much better hear 4 cycling when piss revving and hear it clean up in the cut when I'm not operating the saw. Anyone else notice that? So I guess I just have to have a mini GTG when tuning the saws...

I also find that recording and then listening to the playback I can hear the tune much better. I can hear a quick 4 cycle "sneaking in" or longer period of 4 cycle when in the cut better too when I distance myself from the saw... I always "notice" a quick 4 cycle sneak in when my brother is limbing w/ a 346 my ears are "looking" for it... it's funny, when just listening to a saw I'm not running my ears just focus on hearing 4 cycle when it happens.

I don't know if I'm crazy or what, but really like to hear the saw from a distance to really "hear" the saw's tune.

Tach is nice for repeatability -- I know I can set my 262 at 13800 - 14000 and be quite safe for general work and have all kinds of power. I bump it to 14200 for GTG cookie cutting etc. it still 4 cycles there... haven't really tried to go crazy leaning much beyond there for fear of wrecking it.

 

[RI Chevy]

You gotta hold the saw, rev it and stare off into the wild blue yonder. Lol
Then you can fine tune it.

 

[Glock37]

I geuss im gonna have a hell time tuning my 446 randy 44/46 just did at 16000still 4 strokes
Its in the mail


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[RI Chevy]

Lol

 

[RI Chevy]

You going to the PA gtg in the next couple of weeks? I think its the 22nd.

 

[Glock37]

Yep


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[RI Chevy]

Cool.

 

[junkman]

I geuss im gonna have a hell time tuning my 446 randy 44/46 just did at 16000still 4 strokes
Its in the mail


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If it runs like the one he did for me ,you will smile a lot .

 

[Glock37]

All the saws he did makes me smile


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[Redfin]

You going to the PA gtg in the next couple of weeks? I think its the 22nd.

Are you going?

 

[RI Chevy]

I was thinking about it. I have a few prior engagements, but looking into it. It is a trek for me.

 

[junkman]

All the saws he did makes me smile


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But do the neighbors come over to see what you are running because never heard a saw sing like that before ?

 

[Keith Gandy]

I find myself tuning in and tuning out throughout the day.

A guy on AS is harping that a saw should be set and not touched again? Im like u in tuning when I hear or feel a need

 

[RI Chevy]

He must think he is an Mtronic saw. Lol

 

[Wolverine]

willing to accept that he might not have tuned it correctly.

I admit, I'm surprised that type of thing isn't more common. It's so easy to roach a saw... My last screamer came to me from the builder and wouldn't 4stroke at all, pretty lean outta the box. H & L took a good bit of tuning to get it dialed in.

My 1st ported saw (by Dan H.) I have not touched the carb. No need as of yet... It runs tried and true every time.

 

[Keith Gandy]

He must think he is an Mtronic saw. Lol

Or doesnt know how to tune a saw or what it sounds like tuned properly for a paticular load

 

[jakethesnake]

I don't tune my saws much none usually. Have a 346 that must be tweaked every trip. Why the hell is that? Some stuff seems like it must be done every use others not at all.

 

[jmssaws]

I tune one everytime I use it,pretty much everytime I start it.
I don't believe this saw was poorly tuned.
I'm loading a video right now of a 064 i did for a guy that wants to get better at tuning,it's a cold start and warm up and tune from 1 and 1.
I always find lean first then fat then the sweet spot.
A heavily ported saw needs tuned continually if you want it strong as it can be all the time.
I'll post it when it's loaded

 

[Glock37]

But do the neighbors come over to see what you are running because never heard a saw sing like that before ?

There all afraid of my saws. Says they cut to fast and hurt there ears


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