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I think Thomas inspired Goldie. Corned beef in the crock pot for supper. With potatoes and cabbage.
It's going to be a long day.

I love cabbage. I am the only one though. My wife will cook it and eat it fried, which is off the charts good, but I just like plain old boiled cabbage.

When I cook my corned beef I just follow the instructions on the bag. There is a diner in town and their corned beef is the best. I asked how they did it. No special cut, no special brand, she puts it in a bag and cooks it like you would a turkey (I think) for about 4 hours. If Goldie want to be brave and try it, the flavor is better and it is much more tender.
 

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Gentlemen, I need some help.

I am going over the basics with Mason when we go cutting. I have talked to him about his stance, being aware of his surroundings, knowing which way to run if something goes wrong, hand placement, etcetera. He is learning to listen to his saw and becoming familiar with how it feels/sounds in the cut when most efficient.

I never had anyone "teach" me how to cut firewood. I have managed to learn by doing, reading and making mistakes. If I had the extra money I would get him some chaps but our budget is pretty tight right now. Those will have to wait until fall. He wears steel toe boots when we cut or split as well as safety glasses. He does not like wearing gloves. We always have a first aid kit and a phone with us.

Now - the help part. I know several of you and recognize many of you have much more knowledge and expertise in this area than I have (or may ever have). If you had the responsibility of teaching a young man about cutting firewood and all the related tasks, what would you include?

If you respond, please don't limit your responses because someone else already said it. Say it twice or three times if appropriate. Maybe you can share your most important lesson or biggest mistake. I'm interested in all thoughts on this. Maybe you learned something simple like always take a second or tenth saw (okay - that's a given on this site). Maybe you couldn't afford a second saw when you started so you carried a second bar and chain. That way you could leave the first bar in the pinch and use the second one to cut you out. Do you always carry one special tool? Never cut during the full moon? Say a prayer before starting to cut? (Okay, that one's a given for me.)

Let Mason (and me) learn from your experience. Thanks in advance...

One other thing - if you would rather share something in a PM because it's too personal or embarrassing- that's fine, too.
 

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I love cabbage. I am the only one though. My wife will cook it and eat it fried, which is off the charts good, but I just like plain old boiled cabbage.

When I cook my corned beef I just follow the instructions on the bag. There is a diner in town and their corned beef is the best. I asked how they did it. No special cut, no special brand, she puts it in a bag and cooks it like you would a turkey (I think) for about 4 hours. If Goldie want to be brave and try it, the flavor is better and it is much more tender.

Okay, school me. Fried cabbage? I thought I had eaten a little of everything, especially the fried stuff, but this is new. As you may have guessed from previous pics, I am a fan of cast iron cookware - especially when frying or making cornbread. Do you fry it in cast iron?
 

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One thing I taught my son was to set the chain break if he was moving more than a few steps. Always have a escape route when falling a tree or making a questionable cut. Learn to read how a limb has stored energy save lots of pinched bars and possible personal injury. He is know 24 he got a few bruises learning to read limbs.
 

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Marc, your 2 cents is worth a million dollars to me.

Thanks, Steve. That means a lot to me.

Who would have guessed a CL add a few years ago would have led you to this? Charity cuts, GTG's and some of the best people on the planet were just waiting for you to show up. Crazy, ain't it?
 

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One thing I taught my son was to set the chain break if he was moving more than a few steps. Always have a escape route when falling a tree or making a questionable cut. Learn to read how a limb has stored energy save lots of pinched bars and possible personal injury. He is know 24 he got a few bruises learning to read limbs.

Thanks! Amen to that limb lesson. I still miss 'em every now and then.
 

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Okay, school me. Fried cabbage? I thought I had eaten a little of everything, especially the fried stuff, but this is new. As you may have guessed from previous pics, I am a fan of cast iron cookware - especially when frying or making cornbread. Do you fry it in cast iron?
Good stuff I fry it in butter and onions
 

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Gentlemen, I need some help.

I am going over the basics with Mason when we go cutting. I have talked to him about his stance, being aware of his surroundings, knowing which way to run if something goes wrong, hand placement, etcetera. He is learning to listen to his saw and becoming familiar with how it feels/sounds in the cut when most efficient.

I never had anyone "teach" me how to cut firewood. I have managed to learn by doing, reading and making mistakes. If I had the extra money I would get him some chaps but our budget is pretty tight right now. Those will have to wait until fall. He wears steel toe boots when we cut or split as well as safety glasses. He does not like wearing gloves. We always have a first aid kit and a phone with us.

Now - the help part. I know several of you and recognize many of you have much more knowledge and expertise in this area than I have (or may ever have). If you had the responsibility of teaching a young man about cutting firewood and all the related tasks, what would you include?

If you respond, please don't limit your responses because someone else already said it. Say it twice or three times if appropriate. Maybe you can share your most important lesson or biggest mistake. I'm interested in all thoughts on this. Maybe you learned something simple like always take a second or tenth saw (okay - that's a given on this site). Maybe you couldn't afford a second saw when you started so you carried a second bar and chain. That way you could leave the first bar in the pinch and use the second one to cut you out. Do you always carry one special tool? Never cut during the full moon? Say a prayer before starting to cut? (Okay, that one's a given for me.)

Let Mason (and me) learn from your experience. Thanks in advance...

One other thing - if you would rather share something in a PM because it's too personal or embarrassing- that's fine, too.

Trigger time..
And lots of it..
Teach him to back bar and bore cut.
Do a bunch of it..
When a chain is too agressive and won't bore good? Let him feel it kick back and punch something tender. While you're there to advise. He'll get a feel for the saw and chain. It's priceless.
Safety is as much a frame of mind as it is PPE.
Also, let him know that if something can go wrong, it will.. Gust of wind, weak hinge, hollow tree, dead limbs... Etc.
 

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One thing I taught my son was to set the chain break if he was moving more than a few steps. Always have a escape route when falling a tree or making a questionable cut. Learn to read how a limb has stored energy save lots of pinched bars and possible personal injury. He is know 24 he got a few bruises learning to read limbs.
I still get smacked by hedge limbs..

I swear it's like hedge tops just wanna fight..

Miserable things anyway.
 

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Trigger time..
And lots of it..
Teach him to back bar and bore cut.
Do a bunch of it..
When a chain is too agressive and won't bore good? Let him feel it kick back and punch something tender. While you're there to advise. He'll get a feel for the saw and chain. It's priceless.
Safety is as much a frame of mind as it is PPE.
Also, let him know that if something can go wrong, it will.. Gust of wind, weak hinge, hollow tree, dead limbs... Etc.

Don't do much bore cutting but can step that up. We have some large red oaks coming up soon.

You're right on the priceless lesson aspect. I have heard lessons taught, seen them in books and watched someone else demonstrate them but only "learned" when I screwed it up myself and had a close call or an injury.

I hate to look stupid in public, but what is a "back bar" cut? I am desperately hoping you have a new name for something I am already familiar with...
 

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Thanks, Steve. That means a lot to me.

Who would have guessed a CL add a few years ago would have led you to this? Charity cuts, GTG's and some of the best people on the planet were just waiting for you to show up. Crazy, ain't it?
What's even crazier is I'm driving down 69 hwy heading to Thomas's Saturday morning. We're approaching the 412 interchange and a red Chevy pick up pulling a splitter merges into traffic just a couple hundred yards ahead of me. I look over at Goldie and say "If I'm not mistaken, that's Marc".
We follow for a few miles and my cell phone starts ringing. It's Marc calling. He asks, Where are you at? At this point I knew that he knew I was behind him. I say, " It looks like I'm right behind you".
I mean, what were the odds of that happening. While I enjoy driving and going places, when I saw it was Marc and Mason in front of me, it just made my day and the trip even better.
 

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I still get smacked by hedge limbs..

I swear it's like hedge tops just wanna fight..

Miserable things anyway.

Blackjack is my sworn enemy,I hate them and they hate me.

Both of them are branchy, limby, messy headaches,yes. But boy, do they ever burn good!
 

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What's even crazier is I'm driving down 69 hwy heading to Thomas's Saturday morning. We're approaching the 412 interchange and a red Chevy pick up pulling a splitter merges into traffic just a couple hundred yards ahead of me. I look over at Goldie and say "If I'm not mistaken, that's Marc".
We follow for a few miles and my cell phone starts ringing. It's Marc calling. He asks, Where are you at? At this point I knew that he knew I was behind him. I say, " It looks like I'm right behind you".
I mean, what were the odds of that happening. While I enjoy driving and going places, when I saw it was Marc and Mason in front of me, it just made my day and the trip even better.

Mason and I had the same conversation. Always good to see a friend when you're outside your comfort zone. With those odds, we should have both stopped to buy lottery tickets!

Crazy!
 

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Trigger time..
And lots of it..
Teach him to back bar and bore cut.
Do a bunch of it..
When a chain is too agressive and won't bore good? Let him feel it kick back and punch something tender. While you're there to advise. He'll get a feel for the saw and chain. It's priceless.
Safety is as much a frame of mind as it is PPE.
Also, let him know that if something can go wrong, it will.. Gust of wind, weak hinge, hollow tree, dead limbs... Etc.
That's what I have been doing with my brother in law, he went hard all day yesterday and did well, so far he hasn't
Rocked a chain yet
 

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Don't do much bore cutting but can step that up. We have some large red oaks coming up soon.

You're right on the priceless lesson aspect. I have heard lessons taught, seen them in books and watched someone else demonstrate them but only "learned" when I screwed it up myself and had a close call or an injury.

I hate to look stupid in public, but what is a "back bar" cut? I am desperately hoping you have a new name for something I am already familiar with...
Cutting with the top of the bar..
I drop trees from one side..
Have him feel the pull from the bottom of the bar, and push from the top.
If a trunk is under load and on the ground, have him cut down till the kerf starts to close, then pull out a bit and cut down the operator side and bore in the bottom and out.
Then clean it out from the bottom up.
It's about releasing the tension.
 

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Cutting with the top of the bar..
I drop trees from one side..
Have him feel the pull from the bottom of the bar, and push from the top.
If a trunk is under load and on the ground, have him cut down till the kerf starts to close, then pull out a bit and cut down the operator side and bore in the bottom and out.
Then clean it out from the bottom up.
It's about releasing the tension.

Whew! New name for something I did know. However, that method for cutting a trunk on ground under tension is brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? Learned something new and very useful! Thanks!

Feeling the pull and the push ... good thinking. I've never dropped a tree from only one side. I still have a LOT to learn.
 
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