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[Woodslasher]

Quick question for y'all, the guy who'll be the main fabricator on this suggested a body swap as opposed to a transplant, what do y'all think? Ford body and a frame trim, or heart transplant?

 

[davidwyby]

Quick question for y'all, the guy who'll be the main fabricator on this suggested a body swap as opposed to a transplant, what do y'all think? Ford body and a frame trim, or heart transplant?

F150 ? Frame and front axle not likely to hold up to the Cummins

 

[Woodslasher]

F250, 44HD front, 60 rear. I'm not opposed to eventual axle swaps though.

 

[davidwyby]

Boxed or channel frame? Pretty sure channel…no go for me. I’ve broken frame and body mounts on every 4x4 I’ve had…but I’m extra hard on stuff.

 

[davidwyby]

2nd gen’s eat 70 rears…course your truck will be lighter and probably not towing as much.

If you use the divorced ford tcase you could use a deuce trans. Np205?

 

[davidwyby]

Engine swap…still legit old school truck. Body swap, less legit, more drivable.

 

[Mack 880]

F150 ? Frame and front axle not likely to hold up to the Cummins

My RAM 3500 4x4 was very heavy on the front. Ate up the track bar and lower ball joints by 32,000 miles. That Cummins is a great engine, but OMG that thing is heavy. Also, with the Cummins won't you have to pull the cab anyway for install?

 

[Woodslasher]

2nd gen’s eat 70 rears…course your truck will be lighter and probably not towing as much.

If you use the divorced ford tcase you could use a deuce trans. Np205?

Dana 24.

My RAM 3500 4x4 was very heavy on the front. Ate up the track bar and lower ball joints by 32,000 miles. That Cummins is a great engine, but OMG that thing is heavy. Also, with the Cummins won't you have to pull the cab anyway for install?

Negative based on what I've seen. Cab could remain solid based on seeing other folks swaps. Plus, I need to know firewall clearance when I bolt it up.

 

[davidwyby]

My RAM 3500 4x4 was very heavy on the front. Ate up the track bar and lower ball joints by 32,000 miles. That Cummins is a great engine, but OMG that thing is heavy. Also, with the Cummins won't you have to pull the cab anyway for install?

Yup

The ford will be lighter overall but the engine will be hard on the ford

 

[Yukon Stihl]

I got a Cummins into my GM engine bay with a little massage of the firewall. And a couple inches clearance between the stock fan and rad. Mind you I built a hybrid rad support an am using a ford rad for a 7.3 that was original to the F Superduty Frame

 

[Yukon Stihl]

Quick question for y'all, the guy who'll be the main fabricator on this suggested a body swap as opposed to a transplant, what do y'all think? Ford body and a frame trim, or heart transplant?

I would swap the body onto the frame in your case.

 

[davidwyby]

@Woodslasher how thick and how tall is the ford frame?

 

[FergusonTO35]

How much bigger and heavier is a DT466 than a Cummins or Power Stroke? Has anybody ever put one in a pickup?

 

[Woodslasher]

How much bigger and heavier is a DT466 than a Cummins or Power Stroke? Has anybody ever put one in a pickup?

1425lbs, whereas a Cummins is 1100 and a Powerstroke is around 1000 (all weights are dry).

 

[Woodslasher]

@Woodslasher how thick and how tall is the ford frame?

If you can decipher the code, that's what I came up with:

 

[redline4]

Those are heavy.
Duramax is only about 850lbs.

 

[Mastermind]

Those are heavy.
Duramax is only about 850lbs.

Like two big girls?

 

[FergusonTO35]

1425lbs, whereas a Cummins is 1100 and a Powerstroke is around 1000 (all weights are dry).

Thanks. Wasn't the 466 originally offered as either a gas or diesel engine? I read that somewhere.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Those are heavy.
Duramax is only about 850lbs.

I think it would be really kewl if you could get a Duramax in jade green with Detroit Diesel valve cover logos. If I ever own one I may do just that.

 

[redline4]

I think it would be really kewl if you could get a Duramax in jade green with Detroit Diesel valve cover logos. If I ever own one I may do just that.

My brother in law was doing powder coating for a while and he did a bunch of different diesel engine parts in assorted colors for the bro-dozer bunch.