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PAST CT GTG 2016 May 7th

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Lol! Noodles in that clutch cover was givin him heck!!! Whos saw?
I can't remember but that pine was tough noodling! Twice I jammed up Jason's saw. I gave up on noodling with it. His saw is without a doubt the most powerful saw I've ever ran!! Simply amazing!!!
 

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I can't remember but that pine was tough noodling! Twice I jammed up Jason's saw. I gave up on noodling with it. His saw is without a doubt the most powerful saw I've ever ran!! Simply amazing!!!
No doubt! U can hear the rpm in cut and its pullin!!
 

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Keith, the big saws were all very strong, including that 064 and the 661. With different bars and chains & lengths it is so tough to compare, so I will let the dyno tell the story. I will tell you the 3 big Stihls were all (IMO) bears to start!

That is my 460/046-D that Al ported and is noodling with, and that is also Eric with that saw on the other end of the log in the start of the 064 video. Don't quote me on the # till I get the results back from Eric, but I think that saw did close to 8 Hp on the dyno.

That is Al's ported 360 I'm running in the video, a very strong 60 cc saw! As were several of the 262s there from several porters. Al's 024 (w/026 jug) and 490 were also excellent performers.

As I said before, it was a great day. Few enough people so you got to talk to everyone, animal saws sent in from all over the place (for us to run in the absence of their owners), and of course, the star attraction was the dyno, with many thanks to Bill & Eric and all others involved. Everyone was glued to watching the #s when saws were running. When the print outs are done, Eric will take out the anomalies to give the real readings, but is was a blast watching it all.

Many great saws of all different sizes. Mostly Stihls & Huskies, and Al's 490. Don't think I saw any Dolmars today.

Thanks again Dan, Mel & Cindy for providing a great GTG location & great food. Everyone who was there helped to make it a great event! The Upstate NY GTG is a larger event, but this one is more personal, and there is something to be said for that.
 

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Hey guys I got a bunch of pics and vids moved to computer but can't keep eyes open. I'll upload tomorrow during morning coffee.. It was awesome today. Great group of guys and fantastic hosts! I gotta get some shut eye.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
 

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Keith, the big saws were all very strong, including that 064 and the 661. With different bars and chains & lengths it is so tough to compare, so I will let the dyno tell the story. I will tell you the 3 big Stihls were all (IMO) bears to start!

That is my 460/046-D that Al ported and is noodling with, and that is also Eric with that saw on the other end of the log in the start of the 064 video. Don't quote me on the # till I get the results back from Eric, but I think that saw did close to 8 Hp on the dyno.

That is Al's ported 360 I'm running in the video, a very strong 60 cc saw! As were several of the 262s there from several porters. Al's 024 (w/026 jug) and 490 were also excellent performers.

As I said before, it was a great day. Few enough people so you got to talk to everyone, animal saws sent in from all over the place (for us to run in the absence of their owners), and of course, the star attraction was the dyno, with many thanks to Bill & Eric and all others involved. Everyone was glued to watching the #s when saws were running. When the print outs are done, Eric will take out the anomalies to give the real readings, but is was a blast watching it all.

Many great saws of all different sizes. Mostly Stihls & Huskies, and Al's 490. Don't think I saw any Dolmars today.

Thanks again Dan, Mel & Cindy for providing a great GTG location & great food. Everyone who was there helped to make it a great event! The Upstate NY GTG is a larger event, but this one is more personal, and there is something to be said for that.

The GTG here is getting too busy.

I had more fun the following Sunday when @hseII and @Adirondackstihl came back the following Sunday to play a bit more with some different setups on their saws.
 

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The Dyno was quite amazing. The numbers don't tell the entire story on a saw though. I know we bothered Bill and Eric and took away from their day. For that I'm sorry.

In some cases, a saw made less peak HP but more total HP across a greater range-hence a more usable saw in the real world. Moob's saws tended to do that, not as peaky but with wide flat power curves in the rpm's that you need the power in. His saws were flat out classy, think of a well tuned new corvette vs a suped up drag strip car.

The Dyno definitely brings out the child in most men, that's for sure. I mean who doesn't want to win?

MattyO builds a mean husky 350, his saws did very well. He's the man I'll be asking for advice when I build mine.

For me at least, the Dyno was a way to tell what caused the most power change. Like everyone else, I wish I had the thing to myself for a day.

My most suprising moment was seeing my latest MS360 get beat up by my 036 which was the first saw I've ever ported. My 036 has a nearly no restriction metal air filter on it. So on the first pulls, my 036 pulls 6.5 hp and my 360, 5 hp.

My 360 had a really restrictive OEM flocked filter on it. I swapped in an OEM nylon filter and the saw pulled 6.5 hp at around 9-12k rpm just like my 036. Then we pulled the air filter and ran with none. I was so busy looking at the numbers that I didn't notice how leaned out the saw became. Bill did 3 pulls and than asked me if I really wanted anymore with the saw running like this. Without the AF, the saw pulled to 16,000 rpm with the stock 036 carb and boot. It saw hp's into the 8's, but those values are artificially inflated because of how hp readings are calculated. I'll need to see the final figures on that.

But can anyone deny the surprise that a lower restriction air filter made 30% more usable hp? No air filter 50% more? That's something we can all take home and do something with.
 

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No surprise here.
My 066 was a different animal when I removed the HD2 and put a V-stack and K&N designed for an 1100 cc bike on it.
It just runs so free with that and a muffler that closer resembles a lace G-string.

No point making a saw flow lots of air through and out if you cant get enough in.
 

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The old 064 stomped a mud hole in my 661. :(

I'm going back into it when I get her back home :mad:

I wish I didn't sell that other cylinder yet
What color is the sky in your world?

Your saw performed great. In fact, your 661 and Jason's 064 were the only 2 saws I was actually afraid to use. They were so strong that I could see losing control of them.

The only complaint on your saw would be the starting. Damn thing near impossible to turn over, and I'm no weakling. I have to question your 180 psi compression reading Kev.

Running both saws on the Dyno and in wood, I think you'd be foolish to open your saw up. If you wanted to add a decomp, well....
 
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