Archer chain

[Wilhelm]

You better start looking for a Stihl then to pull the full house chain.

If I were to go the Stihl route I'd need a double ended 20" bar and two 500i PHs.

The loggers here run 661's with 18" B&Cs, makes me not want to pick up a Stihl.
They had never seen a 36" bar and couldn't believe my PS-7900 can pull it bucking, lest noodling fully buried.

@Wilhelm is always trying to pull someone’s chain!

Philbert

@RI Chevy has a loose Stihl chain that needs to be pulled...

 

[RI Chevy]

Your friends need to come out from under the rocks. Lol

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[Wilhelm]

Your friends need to come out from under the rocks. Lol

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I don't know them personally, they are pals of my firewood supplier.
But, I agree - they'd be better off using Dolmar saws!

They did s#it talk Stihl round files, said Oregon ones hold up longer.
They do use Stihl bars, RS chains and Stihl flat files.
But then again, that is what their employer gives them.

Let's go back to Archer chains.
I have one, need to pull it out of storage and wear it out in dirty logs.
I wore out a TriLink loop yesterday, 9 teeth missing on a 72DL loop - scrap metal bin it is.

 

[jakethesnake]

I don't know them personally, they are pals of my firewood supplier.
But, I agree - they'd be better off using Dolmar saws!

They did s#it talk Stihl round files, said Oregon ones hold up longer.
They do use Stihl bars, RS chains and Stihl flat files.
But then again, that is what their employer gives them.

Let's go back to Archer chains.
I have one, need to pull it out of storage and wear it out in dirty logs.
I wore out a TriLink loop yesterday, 9 teeth missing on a 72DL loop - scrap metal bin it is.

Best way to get rid of them Wear em out

 

[Wilhelm]

Best way to get rid of them Wear em out

I have remnants of two TriLink chains, one Archer chain and a couple no name.

Also don't know what to do with the semi chisel brand name chains, they feel slow to me.

I guess I will use undesirable chains bucking other peoples firewood logs, just swap out chains when they stop cutting and keep on going with the next loop.

 

[jakethesnake]

I have remnants of two TriLink chains, one Archer chain and a couple no name.

Also don't know what to do with the semi chisel brand name chains, they feel slow to me.

I guess I will use undesirable chains bucking other peoples firewood logs, just swap out chains when they stop cutting and keep on going with the next loop.

Hold those semi until you find some caked on mud. They’ll run a little longer. Your end result will be worth running it.

I actually like semi. Yes it is slower. But there is no point to knock off. Obviously it’s a trade off. I’ve got a single loop of old chipper in 404. She’s pretty impressive. 404 will go way longer anyhow. Combine that with no point and you’re in business

It’s a pretty cool setup occasionally

 

[RI Chevy]

I was using full chisel exclusively. But I came across some roadside utility take down trees. Killed my full chisel.
I had about a dozen semi-chisel loops that came with my 036 when I bought it. All Stihl chain. After I dialed them in they really cut well in that type of wood. Plus the chains were free. RM 3/8 .050...

 

[EbS-P]

Speed is not the deciding factor for me here.
I cut anything from dirty old pine and ash on the ground to fresh tulip poplar and pine and it's on my own property so no hurry.

I'll be cutting stumps too and some ripping of larger stuff. I'ts just hard on the chain.

I'll probably sell the EA5600 once done with the clearing/cleaning of the lot.
Won't have much use of it after that, my battery saw should be all I need then.
Same for the Husqvarna 340 and the Stihl 020 AV Super

I just sharpened my 28” full skip for the first time and bucked some live oak. Hit the dirty sandy soil we have here on the 5th cut didn’t seem to slow it down to much. Cutters top plate showed some scuffing/abrasion. Didn’t think it was pulling very hard compared to regular full chisel chain. Made nice chips. Cutter length is not consistent. I will measure some off the roll if I get a chance. What saw and bar are you running? If I was doing lots of dirty work I would be thinking about a .404 conversion if the price was right.

 

[AuerX]

I just sharpened my 28” full skip for the first time and bucked some live oak. Hit the dirty sandy soil we have here on the 5th cut didn’t seem to slow it down to much. Cutters top plate showed some scuffing/abrasion. Didn’t think it was pulling very hard compared to regular full chisel chain. Made nice chips. Cutter length is not consistent. I will measure some off the roll if I get a chance. What saw and bar are you running? If I was doing lots of dirty work I would be thinking about a .404 conversion if the price was right.

Makita EA5600 as stated in my post, 20".
I have no need for anything bigger.
As I mentioned, I'll probably sell the saw once done with the lot.

 

[Wilhelm]

I like my PS-550 (aka EA5600), I run 3/8" 18" full chisel full complement on her.

Maybe getting a Stihl Rapid Duro3 carbide tipped chain would be an option.
It is a very durable chain and quite forgiving in sand and mud infested wood.
Although take note it will not survive stones, nails, wire and the likes - the carbide inserts will chip rendering the chain useless.
These chains are very pricey!

Also, I have been having surprisingly good results utilizing TriLink chains bucking logs that were literally encased in dry mud.
Since TriLink chains tend to be affordably priced it might be worth a shot.
For me full chisel performed better than semi chisel, You could simply get one of each to try.

 

[EbS-P]

in as stated in my post, 20".
I have no need for anything bigger.
As I mentioned, I'll probably sell the saw once done with the lot.

Thanks. You’ll be fine with full skip. I’d like to have a 60 ish cc saw seems like a good size.

I’m waisting power on my G600 with full skip unless the log is over 20”. 12-15” of oak and it keeps 4 stroking. I want to try lowering the rakers. Thinking 45 thousandth may 55? It’s got the power.

 

[RI Chevy]

Oak log up to 16" is 50cc territory for me. Better fuel economy.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Oak log up to 16" is 50cc territory for me. Better fuel economy.

Yup 028, 10-10, or 3400.

 

[Gvsu141]

I have been testing out the Archer semi chisel ripping chain on my mill with the 395xp. Seems to cut pretty well and hold it's edge better than expected. I have a couple 32" loops, and milled up some 9'x20
"+ soft maple logs into 1x6" boards. Each chain would make it through a full log before needing touched up, about 25 boards worth. Though it was definitely getting dull towards the end. I'd say the Carlton I have is about 10-20% longer lasting. For the price point, i'd buy it again.

Also used it to mill some small 16-18" hard dead ash into 3" slabs for a temporary makeshift bridge. It would last about 3 logs before needing swapped out. Again, not bad.

 

[RI Chevy]

Nice job.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

Ive been having problems with my archer chain getting large chip production, and I think it has to do with the high straps used on my chain .
You can see how it in croces on the gullet of the tooth and the overall depth .
Here's the equivalent Oregon as a comparison.

 

[Nutball]

I've noticed my file running into the drive links too on my Archer chains.

 

[3browns]

Ive been having problems with my archer chain getting large chip production, and I think it has to do with the high straps used on my chain .View attachment 309871 View attachment 309872
You can see how it in croces on the gullet of the tooth and the overall depth .View attachment 309877 View attachment 309878
Here's the equivalent Oregon as a comparison.

I just went back through this thread and looked at various pictures folks posted a year or two back and there are several where it looks like the drive link is higher than "normal"

look back at page 11

@Czed had some good pics

I just went and looked at the Archer loop on my saw right now and the top of the driver is up into the gullet area like yours and i bought my loops 2 years ago

.050 3/8 semi

 

[3browns]

Archer semi on top

Carlton full below

Honestly the difference I see is not in the height of the driver, its that it is flat and blocky where the Carlton is chamfered off in the middle and the corners

 

[Philbert]

Interesting . . .

Philbert