261 362 462 661 mtronic info

[Redbull661]

Have had some questions about 261 mtronic solenoid, pickup body, and coil/control module. So I did some research...


- 261 362 coil/cm - from what I can tell there hasn't been any serious issues with the coil/Control module. So unlike the 661 the mtronic kit which includes a new control module, white solenoid and orange pickup body. The 261 and 362 mtronic kits (1140 007 1802) only include a white solenoid and orange pickup body.

- 241 - was discontinued before white solenoid orange pick up body upgrade. 241 schematics show new orange pickup body as standard. But do not show new white solenoid as the current solenoid. I don't see why the new white solenoid wouldn't work but best to call stihlUSA to make sure. ie. if you were having issues and bought a mtronic kit...which no mtronic kit is listed for 241.

- 1140 007 1802 mtronic kit for 261 & 362 (pick up body and white solenoid) = shows $51 dealer and $51 retail. Good luck getting it for $51. Don't know why they list it like that.

- old black solenoid (delicate and full of issues) - pn 0000 120 5110
- new white solenoid (across the board fix for all mtronic models) pn 0000 120 5104 - retails 88.75 dlr ~60ish

- new orange pickup body/fuel filter is lower micron rating pn 0000 350 3518 - $3.50 I checked 026 241 261 036 362 044 440 441 461 462 064 660 661 880 ..so it seems to be the across the board new fuel filter for most models.

- Reset OR Calibration is determined by the coil/cm NOT the solenoid. Maybe someone could chime in with, which coils on 241 261 362 441 are ver1 ver2 mtronic (reset) and which are ver3 mtronic (calibration). See below for reset procedure and calibration procedure.

- 661 - take rewind cover off, if on the coil = 4700c, 4700d, 4700e, 4701A coil/CM = reset (warm saw, then 90 sec choke, shut off, 5 test cuts). "reset" resets the carb to settings at the factory. Tunes itself in 5 cuts. If on coil it says 4702A = version 3 = calibration (warm saw up, choke for 30-60 sec, pull & hold throttle WOT, runs approx 10k rpm for approx 15-20 sec, then on it's own bumps up to max rpm ~13kish for 5-10 sec, then on it's own backs down to ~10krpm, at which point you finally let go of trigger)

- 661 mtronic kit (orange pickup body, white solenoid, ver3 4702 coil/cm) = 1144 007 1801 = shows $51 dealer and $51 retail. Good luck getting it for $51.

- 661 coil to solenoid compatibility - Stihl USA tells me you can only use 4702A coil/CM with white solenoid. And just buy the kit. Before the kit came out and before there was a ver3 coil/cm. The white solenoid was available and I did for a short time run the 4701A coil with a white solenoid. So fwiw I am not sure that is entirely true. But may just be easier to get the kit and be done with it.


- 462 - comes with white solenoid, orange pick up body and ver 3 mtronic coil/CM. So calibration only. No kits.

 

[Backtroller]

Thanks for all of the information. This is very useful. Maybe it should be a “sticky” somewhere?

 

[p61 western]

Where does the 201tc fall into with this info?

 

[Ketchup]

Where does the 201tc fall into with this info?

Out of the tree and into the trash can?

I hear the white solenoids work. The coil/controller seems prone to failure and is damned expensive.

I don’t know of an update for 201tc-m that includes the solenoid. Just the updated flywheel kit. Does it exist?

 

[redlight066]

Thanks Julian. Very helpful info rite there. Had a customer buy the 661 v3 service kit and he was charged about $95 at the counter. FWIW

And yes I can confirm the outrageous cost of the white solenoid if purchased as 0000 120 5104. It’s about $85. I purchased one earlier this year and was charged $37 which was about $10 less than the crappy black one.

Needless to say I was pretty shocked when I heard the new price. My dealer ordered a few extra solenoids when they were cheap. I bought all three he had at $37 each

Thanks again Julian.
Rich

 

[M5Pilot]

Great post as this is the kind of info I’ve been looking for. I just bought a new MS 261 C-M this week and was wondering what updates this saw has. Thanks to the OP, I went out to look. It came with the orange pick up. I took the starter cover off and the coil is a 4701D which I didn’t see mentioned above. The solenoid is black. Good to know they have a kit for the 261 with the white solenoid.
Thanks for the information.

I assume a 4701D = reset not calibration?

 

[jackjcc]

My 241 is showing signs of a lean condition coming off of WOT. It is delayed to idle with symptoms of being low on fuel with the tank more than half full. Should I try the white solenoid after doing a pressure and vac test?


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[DND 9000]

The white one will not work right. It was stated in the past the possibility which solenoid valve can be used depends in the control unit firmware.

 

[sawmikaze]

The white one will not work right. It was stated in the past the possibility which solenoid valve can be used depends in the control unit firmware.

Worked perfect in mine.

 

[DND 9000]

Worked perfect in mine.

Possible, it`s not shown in my IPL.

 

[Ketchup]

The white solenoid is also not in the 201tc-m IPL. Also works (so far).

 

[sawmikaze]

The white solenoid is also not in the 201tc-m IPL. Also works (so far).

Yes sir.

 

[DND 9000]

Also works (so far).

On the newer versions of the MS 201 C-M chainsaw with updated components (control unit and carburetor.)

 

[Backtroller]

“new orange pickup body/fuel filter is lower micron rating pn 0000 350 3518 - $3.50 I checked 026 241 261 036 362 044 440 441 461 462 064 660 661 880 ..so it seems to be the across the board new fuel filter for most models.”

does this orange filter work on the newer 201tc? I’ve seen this part number too

0000 350 3522
0000 350 3518 same inlet?

 

[DND 9000]

These 2 pickup bodys have the same diameter for the hose connection. (It`s the large one.) The MS 201 has it`s own pickup body 0000 350 3522 (MS 201 only)

The small fuel hose connection would be on the 0000 350 3502 pickup bodys (used on most trimmers, clearing saws, blowers and so on).

 

[Backtroller]

Here’s the 201tc 0000 350 3522 filter. The nipple seems to the same size as the other larger saws but the barrel is much smaller.

 

[sawmikaze]

“new orange pickup body/fuel filter is lower micron rating pn 0000 350 3518 - $3.50 I checked 026 241 261 036 362 044 440 441 461 462 064 660 661 880 ..so it seems to be the across the board new fuel filter for most models.”

does this orange filter work on the newer 201tc? I’ve seen this part number too

0000 350 3522
0000 350 3518 same inlet?

I used it..works fine with the white solenoid I put in my 201.

 

[Backtroller]

As expected, mine runs with the new orange filter. I’m hoping that the little barrel will fit deeper into that tank and run a little more fuel out of that oddly shaped tank.

 

[Finnrpm]

- 661 mtronic kit (orange pickup body, white solenoid, ver3 4702 coil/cm) = 1144 007 1801 = shows $51 dealer and $51 retail. Good luck getting it for $51.

Found these online and ordered two about month ago.....

https://www.abe-ersatzteile.de/repa...ihl/viking-abe-sh-1144-007-1801-1144-007-1801


overall cost for two kits (with shipping) 104.82€ -> 116.25 usd (shipping 17.90€ -> 19.85 usd)

- 1140 007 1802 mtronic kit for 261 & 362 (pick up body and white solenoid) = shows $51 dealer and $51 retail. Good luck getting it for $51. Don't know why they list it like that.

https://www.abe-ersatzteile.de/repa...ihl/viking-abe-sh-1140-007-1802-1140-007-1802

https://www.abe-ersatzteile.de/magnetventil-fuer-stihl/viking-abe-sh-0000-120-5104-0000-120-5104

would get the kit for that price, 10 euros less and you get the filter too!!!!

RV

 

[redlight066]

Just finished a full rebuild on an early version 1 362CM. Even after a reset the saw would idle fine but wasn’t getting the fuel at WOT (I did upgrade the fuel filter with the newer orange filter). Replaced the old black solenoid with the new white one. Had my dealer order the “service kit” 1140 007 1802. Price was $55.95 at the counter.

Installed the new solenoid, then tried to make a couple of test cuts and allow it to learn. No go.

It DID require a reset. Ran as it should after that without issue.

@Mastermind thanks for making this a sticky. Only took a second to look the part number up while I was standing at the counter. My parts guy is really knowledgeable but without giving him the number for the service kit, he couldn’t find it.