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You can use an 066 coil, but you need to make a bracket to hold it securely due to mounting points. Secondly I had to grind the coil to shape so it had clearance from the flywheel. Works well, especially considering the 084 coil is unobtainium.

Actually doing that tonite [emoji12][emoji1360]
 

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I second that. The one from Stihl is great.
I have one on my ported 111S......
You must pull with "Conviction" shall we say.

Especially if you take 20 thou off the key!! Elasto starts are pretty good.
 

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I was planning a D handle for this saw anyway as compression will be raised.
I want the 084 to be a bit of a hot saw that makes me smile.
I have no issues with "hard to start" saws. No chicken wings here!

My legs aren't skinny either so the porting will suck!
 

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My 064 is running an after market 066 coil and I think its well advanced with nothing off the key.
Makes it harder to start and kinda angry...... but I like its attitude

Once can always take a bit off the key and retard the timing if its too nasty.

That's sure got me thinking about my next 064 build, I may throw on an 066 coil and see just how angry it is!
 

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Ok. Here we have the victim of a dodgy coil.



Here lays a Chinese 660 coil. Option A.



Option B. Now there is pluses and minuses for each.



Original coil. Note timing position.



Option A is in the same position.



Option B would advance the timing at a guess of 6-10 degrees.



Option A , I am thinking of milling down the pad 3mm and using a 3mm piece of steel as a bridge to the coil screw position to fix it tight. All cables and lead are long enough.

Option B will advance the timing and will need the magnet pick up on the coil ground back a bit and/or slotting of the screw hole in coil. It will need a coil lead that would be approx 4-5" longer. The black wire I think is long enough just. And the earth can be screwed to the top screw hole that is no longer used.
 
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Option A was how I mounted mine and it worked well. For some reason though the lead from coil exited differently, hence my earlier description :/
 

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Nice work Vince.

Just looking at your photo of option A
I recon one could make a pillar from some 10mm aluminum rod and bolt it on from the back, rough up the base and the mounting point on the case and seat it in some JB Weld to help key it in so it doesn't spin.
 

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Nice work Vince.

Just looking at your photo of option A
I recon one could make a pillar from some 10mm aluminum rod and bolt it on from the back, rough up the base and the mounting point on the case and seat it in some JB Weld to help key it in so it doesn't spin.

Anything is possible. One screw holds it pretty good but vibs will get the better of it.
The other idea with option A is to screw a tab to the coil and use a packer to the original screw mount. Think I will go that option, don't have to mill the case that way.
 
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Anything is possible. One screw holds it pretty good but vibs will get the better of it.
The other option it to screw a tab to the coil and use a packer to the original screw mount. Think I will go that option, don't have to mill the case that way.

forgive the ignorance but what is it about option B that needs machining? Just can't get me simple noggin around it
 

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It was option A that may have machining for the linking tab if it was to go underneath. But make a packer off the screw tower and link across the top no machining needed. I'll make some pieces up today hopefully and take some pics [emoji1360]

Edit: I have reworded it better I hope.
 

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Hey folks.
Does anyone have a spare 088 flywheel laying about?
I have a mate who has an 088 and the flywheel cracked and split

Let me know
 

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Would someone in the states be able to get a price on a flywheel for me?

11244001210

$270 here
 
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