064/056 mag11 build

[Toad22t]

Couple pistons come to mind without research for pin dimensions. 2100/395/56magII/661.

I don't think any of those is a direct swap due to the domed piston. Well besides the 056 piston.

 

[jmssaws]

I have all of the different cases but want to see how it runs on these.
It is a late 064 so it's the smallest of them

 

[Redfin]

I don't think any of those is a direct swap due to the domed piston. Well besides the 056 piston.

I comprende. 56mm jug isnt either. Just pitchin the ball around.

 

[cgraham1]

I posted a link earlier, but thought it might be good to just copy and paste the info here from the other thread... (Got this from another site.)

I used to build quite a few 064's using the 056 Mag 2 cylinder and piston assembly. They are not really too hard to adapt the Mag 2 stuff onto the 064,but the catch was fitting a correct piston bearing... The 064 bearing doesn't fit, and the 056 bearing is too wide for the 064 connecting rod. These saws were really popular with fallers in my area. The ones I built for fallers I did not bother to relocate the spark plug hole of the 056 cyl. to the rear like the 064's (The 056 plug sticks straight up from the center of the cyl.),so I cut a hole in the top of the top cover for the spark plug to stick out.

It really isn't a too hard swap,it used to take me a full day at work (about 8 hours) to finish installing the Mag 2 cyl. on an 064. The fallers loved them... a light 100cc saw (98.6cc), and they fit the 100cc competition saw class nicely.

I can explain the install in detail,but it's quite easy.

The bottom ends holds up fine, none of the ones I built ever blew, and some were for fallers, run hard day after day. The 056 piston was considerably heavier than the 064 piston, and I too originally questioned how long they'd last. A lightweight wrist pin helps.

As a home or work saw they are easy to build. As for a race saw, trying to stuff a big race carb in the airbox and getting it to work and look stock with the air filter cover fitting intact was quite difficult.

The nice thing about the 056 Mag 2 to 064 swap is you get a full 100cc (98.6) saw in the small lightweight 064 package,without using inferior aftermarket parts. And the 064 didn't have a rev limiter (Most),or a carb with a fixed high speed mixture.

To make the Mag2 cyl. fit you must file-slot the cyl. bolt-on holes inward slightly(use an 064 base gasket as a template),and I would tap out the 064's cyl. bolt holes out from 5mm to 6mm, like the Mag2 (or 066) uses.You could maybe skip this step and use the 064's 5mm screws,but I always made them 6mm. Then you have to trim a few cyl. fins so the 064 top cover would fit on. To use the 064 muffler you had to heat it with a torch and bend it downwards and then it would bolt on like stock.

If used as a general purpose or work saw,I would bore out the stock Walbro WJ carb and use it.

I built and sold quite of few of these brand new to fallers,and most were modified too.(Some porting,muffler mod.,etc.)None of them blew up or failed that I know of.
Anyone considering building one can contact me,and I'll give you the details and suggestions to build a good one.

 

[beaglebriar]

Subbed.

 

[hseII]

We talked about this in the saw build thread. @spencerpaving mentioned a 660 case to have more volume. We decided to stick with what I had and not prolong the build further.

Yes we did.

I understood this would be the better saw for the would anyway: am I mistaken?

 

[hseII]

I posted a link earlier, but thought it might be good to just copy and paste the info here from the other thread... (Got this from another site.)

Thank You.

 

[Frank bierce]

Be watching this!!

 

[Redfin]

this would be the better saw for the would anyway: am I mistaken?

You said would., this saw done yet?

 

[hseII]

You said would., this saw done yet?

This saw that you speak of, it may or may not be in transit from the Great State of Louisiana, atm/this week.

Allegedly.

 

[leadfarmer]

a fella left me run this a couple o times, just can't get it outa me head..........thanks Brett

 

[leadfarmer]

I've ran a few bad azz saws at the local gtgs here in pa and two sawz made me forget my name both had a granade sticker on em......I guess I'm gonna go find a sticker [emoji41]

 

[hseII]

I've ran a few bad azz saws at the local gtgs here in pa and two sawz made me forget my name both had a granade sticker on em......I guess I'm gonna go find a sticker [emoji41]

Is Smooth Arms a member here?

 

[leadfarmer]

Is Smooth Arms a member here?

And who may that b

 

[hseII]

a fella left me run this a couple o times, just can't get it outa me head..........thanks Brett

I've ran a few bad azz saws at the local gtgs here in pa and two sawz made me forget my name both had a granade sticker on em......I guess I'm gonna go find a sticker [emoji41]

And who may that b

Some dude named Brett.

 

[cgraham1]

Some dude named Brett.

Isn't that @spencerpaving ?

 

[hseII]

Isn't that @spencerpaving ?

One of these two:

Allegedly.

 

[hseII]

One of these two:

Allegedly.

And Again.

 

[spencerpaving]

One of these two:

Allegedly.

I don't know who you are talking about...

 

[hseII]

I don't know who you are talking about...

See.

I Tol Ya.