Stihl 064 help

[RedFir Down]

Here is the lever style I have.
@Wood Doctor



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[RedFir Down]

I just called the owner (a good friend) and told him he bought an over priced parts saw.

 

[RedFir Down]

I like the 1128 style myself. Not a big fan of 1122 or 1125 master control levers.

Have you ever had issues with this style of control lever?

 

[huskihl]

All of em that I've ran, 066/064 are that way

I've only had 4 in the shop with the older style L shaped lever. 2 were brand new and worked. The 2 that were used acted just like yours. Guessing they didn' work correctly for very long

 

[Wood Doctor]

Have you ever had issues with this style of control lever?

I have had issues with the control lever only on the Stihl 066, MS650, and MS660, several of them, in fact. My 064 has no problems holding a fast idle whatsoever.

 

[RedFir Down]

I just heard back and he wants it repaired/rebuild.
Before I order a set of gaskets can some one tell me if this a 064 or 066? The serial number is 122059068
I measure the bore through the exhaust and it measures 54mm so I'm assuming it's a 066?

Thanks again.

 

[Moparmyway]

I just heard back and he wants it repaired/rebuild.
Before I order a set of gaskets can some one tell me if this a 064 or 066? The serial number is 122059068
I measure the bore through the exhaust and it measures 54mm so I'm assuming it's a 066?

Thanks again.

http://opeforum.com/threads/064-066-ms650-ms660-info-thread.696/

 

[Cracker Boy]

If you use 066 660 muffler you wont most likely need the spacer. I have 2 064s and an early 066 neither needed spacer with the later 660 muffler Easiest way to tell if its 064 04 066 is the flywheel and oiler. The 064 flywheel is about an in. wide and has external oil line same as 036 oil line kit actually and suck to install And 066 has a flywheel about 2 in thick and oiler screws to case with no external oil line. Also 064 066 gasket set is same part number comes with 3 crank seals depending if saw has small diameter crank or large diameter . 660 seal kit is diff seal kit part number all together. All 064. 52 mn cylinders were thin base as well. Were as 066 660 were thick base in most cases and were mahle although some 066 specialy early red lights did have a thin base cylinder 54 mm. 064 and 066 share the same fuel tank as well. 660 fuel tank is diff due to 660 being a bigger crankcase.

 

[RedFir Down]

http://opeforum.com/threads/064-066-ms650-ms660-info-thread.696/

Thank you. I also just found this thread. It looks like it is a late 064 1988 crankcase.
http://opeforum.com/threads/finally-decided-to-pull-it-out-and-measure-it.2136/

If you use 066 660 muffler you wont most likely need the spacer. I have 2 064s and an early 066 neither needed spacer with the later 660 muffler Easiest way to tell if its 064 04 066 is the flywheel and oiler. The 064 flywheel is about an in. wide and has external oil line same as 036 oil line kit actually and suck to install And 066 has a flywheel about 2 in thick and oiler screws to case with no external oil line. Also 064 066 gasket set is same part number comes with 3 crank seals depending if saw has small diameter crank or large diameter . 660 seal kit is diff seal kit part number all together. All 064. 52 mn cylinders were thin base as well. Were as 066 660 were thick base in most cases and were mahle although some 066 specialy early red lights did have a thin base cylinder 54 mm. 064 and 066 share the same fuel tank as well. 660 fuel tank is diff due to 660 being a bigger crankcase.

Good to know, thanks.


Does any one know if the early to late control levers interchange?
I'm going to replace this one and not sure they still make the early style.

 

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Here is the case.



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[Cracker Boy]

Thank you. I also just found this thread. It looks like it is a late 064 1988 crankcase.
http://opeforum.com/threads/finally-decided-to-pull-it-out-and-measure-it.2136/


Good to know, thanks.


Does any one know if the early to late control levers interchange?
I'm going to replace this one and not sure they still make the early style.

If its late model case should also have w screw holes real close together by pin boss on flywheel side if so and it dont allready have you can put standard unlimited coil same as 026 036 044 1300 and a 1203 1204 or a 1204 unlimited coil and get away from them old dog leg limited coils that were known for failure that are nla a 1201 flywheel will work too.

 

[Cracker Boy]

Looks 064 pull clutch cover and clutch send pic

 

[Cracker Boy]

Thank you. I also just found this thread. It looks like it is a late 064 1988 crankcase.
http://opeforum.com/threads/finally-decided-to-pull-it-out-and-measure-it.2136/


Good to know, thanks.


Does any one know if the early to late control levers interchange?
I'm going to replace this one and not sure they still make the early style.

I think they interchange im not 100 percent on that

 

[RedFir Down]

Looks 064 pull clutch cover and clutch send pic

Yeah, according to my findings it's a Late 064 case, built in 1988.

 

[RedFir Down]

This really going to show my 1122 ignorance but will a 066 piston and cylinder bolt on to a Late 064 case?

 

[jacob j.]

It's not a bolt-up affair. The 064 case (in the U.S.) was never converted to accept the 066 top end from the factory. Apparently there were 064s sold in Canada that were said to have had the same cylinder spacing as 066s but the one guy that posted that never posted any pictures or other documentation, so I'm doubtful.

The gasket set you need is 1122 007 1051. It's the only gasket set that fits the 064 and metal flywheel 066 cases. Just the single crankcase gasket is 1122 029 0500.

 

[Mastermind]

Cross Performance has a 066 top end with the 064 bolt pattern.

 

[trooney]

Yes, they still make control levers like the one you've got $10 from the dealer.

 

[RedFir Down]

It's not a bolt-up affair. The 064 case (in the U.S.) was never converted to accept the 066 top end from the factory. Apparently there were 064s sold in Canada that were said to have had the same cylinder spacing as 066s but the one guy that posted that never posted any pictures or other documentation, so I'm doubtful.

The gasket set you need is 1122 007 1051. It's the only gasket set that fits the 064 and metal flywheel 066 cases. Just the single crankcase gasket is 1122 029 0500.

I pulled the cylinder late last night and it is indeed a 064, 52mm. My fault thinking it was a 066 for a bit. I screwed up the pop sickle stick trick.
I got the gasket set number on my list, thank you.

Cross Performance has a 066 top end with the 064 bolt pattern.

Good to know. I pulled the cylinder and don't like how the plating looks, I'll post a picture in a bit. This saw needs junked!!
That's the one you helped design right Randy?
I skimmed through a few threads last night and noticed mixed reviews.
How does the cylinder look out of the box, does it need any work?
Have they been holding up? I noticed some were having premature plating issues.

 

[RedFir Down]

Here is the cylinder, like I said I don't like the looks of the plating.
What do you guys think? @Mastermind



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