What's on your bench?

[dustinwilt68]

Those are big stumps Mike, looks like the 066 had dinner!

 

[MustangMike]

I'm going to have to lower the rakers on that chain. With the 36" RSLH fully buried in Red Oak I sometimes locked the dogs in and put both hands on the handle and pulled! It just kept spitting chips!

I did not even put a dp cover on it, just modded the existing muff. Just drilled a 1/2" hole through the baffle straight away on the inside, removed the screen, and in the cover made 2 - 1/4" holes on the high side on starboard, and 3 - 3/16 holes on the port side. Was not bad today, but will have to make a deflector for the port side holes, as they will warm your hand a bit.

 

[Stump Shot]

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Look at post #6537, I did call you in.

 

[peter92]

@MustangMike , @peter92 and @Sty57

There are many kinds of spark checkers, the ones on the left are for a running engine, lets you see an intermittent spark. The ones on the right mimic the spark under compression by jumping a longer than normal gap in the open air. On the far right the Rotary tool diagnoses problems a little further with different lights. The Husqvarna tool is like the old industry standard looks like a spark plug with a clip on it also made by OTC and Lisle. Stihl has a couple of dandy units adjustable to match settings in the Stihl repair manual. Also speaking of an ohm meter can be used to check some of the older Stihl coils as per the manual. Look up coil tester or spark checker on E-bay and you will find as many as you can stand, local auto parts place should have something too. Prices ten buck and on up depending on what one you want.

Thanks for explaining all of those , , very informative

 

[bigbadbob]

This afternoon I did an oil change on the TDI, them assembled the top end of an 660, using a non decomp cylinder.
So have 2 660s partially assembled. Waiting for seals for both.
Husky dealer tossed me this,,,
BBB

 

[peter92]

Well, two things made it on and off my bench today, but nothin was easy!

First, a MS 461 comes in to me. Saw will start & idle, but won't take the fuel. Figure it has to be tune up or carb. Start with a full tune up, NG. So, even though the fuel looks good, dumped & replaced, still NG. So I see evidence that the carb was rebuilt by the same place that rebuilt that 660 carb, and that saw fell on it's face also. So I figure I know what the problem is, lever is too high.

Rip carb apart, check lever, it is perfect! Some dirt in the carb, clean it out and reinstall, still NG ... AAAAHHHHHGGGG!!!!

Swap carb with a 460! Did you know that a 461 has a different carb & control lever??? So now I got to swap the control lever to get the choke to work ... still NNNNGGGG!!!!!!!

So I figure it must be the vent, and I know I purchased extras, WTF are they???? Finally find them, and it is not it!!!!

Then I swap the coil with a 460, and wallah ... All is OK!!!!

But now I feel obligated to make the 461 a 461 again, so the original carb and control lever go back on!

(Hey, now I know why my one 460 would not activate the choke till I modded it. I thought it was an AM control lever, no, just a 461 on a 460!)

So then I look at the 201-T that has been apart and in a box for over a month cause the clutch drum is back ordered. So I call a few shops, and I finally find one that has the drum in stock. It is 20 min each way, and they charge more, but WTF, they have it, so I do it. I'm in the process of installing it, and the local shop calls me to let me know that Stihl has shipped the drum!!!! Had to tell them, sorry, too late!!!!

But I got both saws done, so I felt OK!

Can you

Well, two things made it on and off my bench today, but nothin was easy!

First, a MS 461 comes in to me. Saw will start & idle, but won't take the fuel. Figure it has to be tune up or carb. Start with a full tune up, NG. So, even though the fuel looks good, dumped & replaced, still NG. So I see evidence that the carb was rebuilt by the same place that rebuilt that 660 carb, and that saw fell on it's face also. So I figure I know what the problem is, lever is too high.

Rip carb apart, check lever, it is perfect! Some dirt in the carb, clean it out and reinstall, still NG ... AAAAHHHHHGGGG!!!!

Swap carb with a 460! Did you know that a 461 has a different carb & control lever??? So now I got to swap the control lever to get the choke to work ... still NNNNGGGG!!!!!!!

So I figure it must be the vent, and I know I purchased extras, WTF are they???? Finally find them, and it is not it!!!!

Then I swap the coil with a 460, and wallah ... All is OK!!!!

But now I feel obligated to make the 461 a 461 again, so the original carb and control lever go back on!

(Hey, now I know why my one 460 would not activate the choke till I modded it. I thought it was an AM control lever, no, just a 461 on a 460!)

So then I look at the 201-T that has been apart and in a box for over a month cause the clutch drum is back ordered. So I call a few shops, and I finally find one that has the drum in stock. It is 20 min each way, and they charge more, but WTF, they have it, so I do it. I'm in the process of installing it, and the local shop calls me to let me know that Stihl has shipped the drum!!!! Had to tell them, sorry, too late!!!!

But I got both saws done, so I felt OK!

Could you explain how these coils wo

Well, two things made it on and off my bench today, but nothin was easy!

First, a MS 461 comes in to me. Saw will start & idle, but won't take the fuel. Figure it has to be tune up or carb. Start with a full tune up, NG. So, even though the fuel looks good, dumped & replaced, still NG. So I see evidence that the carb was rebuilt by the same place that rebuilt that 660 carb, and that saw fell on it's face also. So I figure I know what the problem is, lever is too high.

Rip carb apart, check lever, it is perfect! Some dirt in the carb, clean it out and reinstall, still NG ... AAAAHHHHHGGGG!!!!

Swap carb with a 460! Did you know that a 461 has a different carb & control lever??? So now I got to swap the control lever to get the choke to work ... still NNNNGGGG!!!!!!!

So I figure it must be the vent, and I know I purchased extras, WTF are they???? Finally find them, and it is not it!!!!

Then I swap the coil with a 460, and wallah ... All is OK!!!!

But now I feel obligated to make the 461 a 461 again, so the original carb and control lever go back on!

(Hey, now I know why my one 460 would not activate the choke till I modded it. I thought it was an AM control lever, no, just a 461 on a 460!)

So then I look at the 201-T that has been apart and in a box for over a month cause the clutch drum is back ordered. So I call a few shops, and I finally find one that has the drum in stock. It is 20 min each way, and they charge more, but WTF, they have it, so I do it. I'm in the process of installing it, and the local shop calls me to let me know that Stihl has shipped the drum!!!! Had to tell them, sorry, too late!!!!

But I got both saws done, so I felt OK!

can you explain how these coils work and does the 394 have the same
my key pad on the lap top is playing up thats why it has so many stuff ups haha

 

[MustangMike]

My friend who was trained as a motorcycle mechanic explained it to me. There is a primary coil, and a secondary coil. If the primary coil is good, but the secondary is bad, the saw will "pop" or start, but will not run strong (accelerate). It often mimics a fuel problem, and is often misdiagnosed.

I imagine it applies to most saw makes & models, but I don't really know.

That is why I try to focus on working on just a few saw models, and keep some spare parts around to try if I need them. Makes life much easier.

The tree guy that brought me the 8 saws last week asked if I would also look at some Huskies, and I replied "No", but I guess he likes my work because he told me that after my busy tax season, he has a bunch more MS460s and 066/660s for me to fix!!!

 

[bigbadbob]

My friend who was trained as a motorcycle mechanic explained it to me. There is a primary coil, and a secondary coil. If the primary coil is good, but the secondary is bad, the saw will "pop" or start, but will not run strong (accelerate). It often mimics a fuel problem, and if often misdiagnosed.

I imagine it applies to most saw makes & models, but I don't really know.

That is why I try to focus on working on just a few saw models, and keep some spare parts around to try if I need them. Makes life much easier.

The tree guy that brought me the 8 saws last week asked if I would also look at some Huskies, and I replied "No", but I guess he likes my work because he told me that after my busy tax season, he has a bunch more MS460s and 066/660s for me to fix!!!

Last summer I had a big 11hp briggs, new to me used, would start,, run for a while then weird stuff happened, it mimicked fuel problems, I had the carb off 20 times,,, finally said this carb is too simple to cause all this ruckus,,, it was the coil!!
Had me well fooled!!
BBB

 

[peter92]

My friend who was trained as a motorcycle mechanic explained it to me. There is a primary coil, and a secondary coil. If the primary coil is good, but the secondary is bad, the saw will "pop" or start, but will not run strong (accelerate). It often mimics a fuel problem, and if often misdiagnosed.

I imagine it applies to most saw makes & models, but I don't really know.

That is why I try to focus on working on just a few saw models, and keep some spare parts around to try if I need them. Makes life much easier.

The tree guy that brought me the 8 saws last week asked if I would also look at some Huskies, and I replied "No", but I guess he likes my work because he told me that after my busy tax season, he has a bunch more MS460s and 066/660s for me to fix!!!

makes it a lot easier when you know a particular saw or saws
ive always mucked around with really old stuff and these newer ones a total new in every way
but to school haha

 

[MustangMike]

That 066 was covered in a fairly thick layer of goo when I got it, but I was very glad with how it cleaned up. Will never be a shelf queen, but I think it now looks like a respectable work saw. Conversely, that barn find 034 I got had stuff on it that was near impossible to get off, and seemed to leave a permanent stain on the plastics. That saw has fallen lower on my list of priorities.

I have a new handle bar and oil cap on order for the 066, but I could not wait. I had an old 044 fuel cap (that leaked) that seemed to be the same size & thread as the 066 oil cap. I figure oil is thicker than fuel, it will be OK for the time being. I also pulled out the bent handle from the other 066 and was trying to figure out how to straighten it out enough to use. As I was walking with it in my hand, I saw the hole for the hitch on the back of my ATV. Two minutes later, that handle was straight enough to use until the new handle comes in. I always try to be resourceful.

 

[peter92]

That 066 was covered in a fairly thick layer of goo when I got it, but I was very glad with how it cleaned up. Will never be a shelf queen, but I think it now looks like a respectable work saw. Conversely, that barn find 034 I got had stuff on it that was near impossible to get off, and seemed to leave a permanent stain on the plastics. That saw has fallen lower on my list of priorities.

I have a new handle bar and oil cap on order for the 066, but I could not wait. I had an old 044 fuel cap (that leaked) that seemed to be the same size & thread as the 066 oil cap. I figure oil is thicker than fuel, it will be OK for the time being. I also pulled out the bent handle from the other 066 and was trying to figure out how to straighten it out enough to use. As I was walking with it in my hand, I saw the hole for the hitch on the back of my ATV. Two minutes later, that handle was straight enough to use until the new handle comes in. I always try to be resourceful.

i like your vise , my cruiser is the same

 

[mdavlee]

My friend who was trained as a motorcycle mechanic explained it to me. There is a primary coil, and a secondary coil. If the primary coil is good, but the secondary is bad, the saw will "pop" or start, but will not run strong (accelerate). It often mimics a fuel problem, and is often misdiagnosed.

I imagine it applies to most saw makes & models, but I don't really know.

That is why I try to focus on working on just a few saw models, and keep some spare parts around to try if I need them. Makes life much easier.

The tree guy that brought me the 8 saws last week asked if I would also look at some Huskies, and I replied "No", but I guess he likes my work because he told me that after my busy tax season, he has a bunch more MS460s and 066/660s for me to fix!!!

Scared you'll work on them and ruin the creamsickle dreams[emoji23]

 

[MustangMike]

Tax season is less than 2 weeks away, don't want to get into something I don't know, with no time to learn it.

Fixin em is just a fun hobby for me, I plan to keep it that way!

Been working out pretty well so far.

FYI, I was not knocking Husky's, I just don't know em.

In tax season, I only do individual returns. So many people have asked me why I don't learn corporations & partnerships. I reply, my plate is already full, why complicate my life and make it over flow! Yes, I have lost a few good clients due to this policy, but I'm still busy 7 days a week in tax season, and sometimes have to turn away new business cause I just don't have the time. IMO, don't make your life more complicated than it has to be.

It is like dating more than one women at the same time, it never ends well!

 

[beaglebriar]

Did a welded pop-up for my 353 today. Just playing around to see how much difference it'll make. Pop-up is .050 might go more but this is just a starting point. I know the finish leaves something to be desired but I was in a hurry and I'm sure I'll be changing it anyway.

 

[Stump Shot]

My friend who was trained as a motorcycle mechanic explained it to me. There is a primary coil, and a secondary coil. If the primary coil is good, but the secondary is bad, the saw will "pop" or start, but will not run strong (accelerate). It often mimics a fuel problem, and is often misdiagnosed.

I imagine it applies to most saw makes & models, but I don't really know.

That is why I try to focus on working on just a few saw models, and keep some spare parts around to try if I need them. Makes life much easier.

The tree guy that brought me the 8 saws last week asked if I would also look at some Huskies, and I replied "No", but I guess he likes my work because he told me that after my busy tax season, he has a bunch more MS460s and 066/660s for me to fix!!!

I call that a "ghost" spark. If you look at it it will be real weak/thin. Might be white or pink in color instead of blue. Some times it will jump a 5mm gap, but if it's not a thick bright blue spark it's still no good. I've learned over time for this to be one of my first tests when doing a diagnosis.

As far as the Husqvarna thing goes, all you need is an Allen wrench instead of a Torx. If you can work on a Stihl, you're capable to work on them all. But that would be up to you, of course.

 

[Stump Shot]

Did a welded pop-up for my 353 today. Just playing around to see how much difference it'll make. Pop-up is .050 might go more but this is just a starting point. I know the finish leaves something to be desired but I was in a hurry and I'm sure I'll be changing it anyway.

Nice!

 

[Moparmyway]

Porting is next

 

[Magnumitis]

This afternoon I did an oil change on the TDI, them assembled the top end of an 660, using a non decomp cylinder.
So have 2 660s partially assembled. Waiting for seals for both.
Husky dealer tossed me this,,,
BBB
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Dibz

 

[bigbadbob]

Dibz

Nope!!!
It was on the his counter,, I asked how to get one,,he says ,take it!! Never seen one B4,,,,,goonna be great at the cabin!!!
BBB

 

[Tpagel]

Did a welded pop-up for my 353 today. Just playing around to see how much difference it'll make. Pop-up is .050 might go more but this is just a starting point. I know the finish leaves something to be desired but I was in a hurry and I'm sure I'll be changing it anyway.

Looks very cool I want one.


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