What oil is best? and what ratio?

[PissRev]

Amsoil Dom or Saber both good at 32:1.
I'm using Maxima Super M right now and that blend oil has ester in it. The oil film is a bit tacky when I took the saw apart.

Are you talking black tacky or just tacky tacky?

 

[qurotro]

Are you talking black tacky or just tacky tacky?

Just tacky. The bottom end is well lubbed with that golden reddish oil. Not very tacky but it is tackier than the Dom or Saber. Kinda like gear oil. Burns clean too.

 

[PissRev]

Just tacky. The bottom end is well lubbed with that golden reddish oil. Not very tacky but it is tackier than the Dom or Saber. Kinda like gear oil. Burns clean too.

That doesn't sound too bad.

 

[PissRev]

This is the best thread on this website. I'm glad that it got a little traction lately and we started talking oil again. I've been flip-flopping between Husky XP and VP synthetic. At the moment I've been burning through a pile of VP since hurricane Helene knocked down thousands of trees around here.

I still have a bunch of this to burn through since I bought all of it on clearance from every store in a 30 mile radius. The last couple of years it hasn't gone on clearance and they've just been keeping it in stock year-round, which is not a bad thing.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I was burning alco no smoke 2 stroke full synthetic fd rated oil in all my saws ect but they quit handling it locally. Was 20$ a gallon a gallon and was made by spectrum I believe but now part of Phillips 66.

 

[Mastermind]

That doesn't sound too bad.

Tacky like gear oil sounds terrible to me. Performance killing drag ain't much fun....

 

[Joe Kidd]

Compounded greatly in <30cc too.

 

[Loony661]

Tacky like gear oil sounds terrible to me. Performance killing drag ain't much fun....

My thoughts exactly - parasitic loss trying to overcome the higher viscosity.

 

[Partner]

I was burning alco no smoke 2 stroke full synthetic fd rated oil in all my saws ect but they quit handling it locally. Was 20$ a gallon a gallon and was made by spectrum I believe but now part of Phillips 66.

They stopped selling because there is no one to produce, so bright minds in our country started doing it themselves

 

[bwalker]

I was burning alco no smoke 2 stroke full synthetic fd rated oil in all my saws ect but they quit handling it locally. Was 20$ a gallon a gallon and was made by spectrum I believe but now part of Phillips 66.

Phillips 66 traditionally had made great two stroke oils.

 

[bwalker]

Tacky like gear oil sounds terrible to me. Performance killing drag ain't much fun....

And inhibiting combustion.... and it's not needed in a chainsaw.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

And inhibiting combustion.... and it's not needed in a chainsaw.

Maybe I’m thinking wrong but you’d think thick oil would also trap heat more to a point along with it increasing it slightly because of more drag.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

They stopped selling because there is no one to produce, so bright minds in our country started doing it themselves

Still places that have it for sale just not close here anymore, unless it’s old stock .

 

[bwalker]

Maybe I’m thinking wrong but you’d think thick oil would also trap heat more to a point along with it increasing it slightly because of more drag.

Drag equals heat.

 

[qurotro]

Tacky like gear oil sounds terrible to me. Performance killing drag ain't much fun....

Is that how ester do?? Dom leave a oil film that is not as greasy as Saber on the bottom end, Super M and K2 both do leave a film like 90 weight oil with a hair of tacky feeling. Man I should stop buying different oil and stick to one lol.
Those 4 oil I've tried are all good. Maybe just some different characteristic.
Almost forgot to mention the bean oil Maxima 927, that stuff is gummy! Not really mean for chainsaw I think.

 

[redneckhillbilly]

do you guys think enviromental factors come into play, like humidity, temperature, mixed with altitude air density. would that have an impact on oil performance in different regions-climates?

I've been running 40:1 dominator since I started reading this thread a few years ago, I can notice an increase in power over my old mix of husky oil at 50:1, but its got me wondering if maybe the fuels and climates favor that mixture for me here, and someone in a different region might need a completley different recipe.

 

[jakethesnake]

I’ve run the same mix in temperature from 90 to 15 degrees. Only time I had a real issue was with klotz benol. Castor doesn’t like super cold weather

 

[Loony661]

do you guys think enviromental factors come into play, like humidity, temperature, mixed with altitude air density. would that have an impact on oil performance in different regions-climates?

I've been running 40:1 dominator since I started reading this thread a few years ago, I can notice an increase in power over my old mix of husky oil at 50:1, but its got me wondering if maybe the fuels and climates favor that mixture for me here, and someone in a different region might need a completley different recipe.

I agree that environmental factors definitely can have an effect - how much is debatable..

There are articles out there though, that say that 2T engines run on premix made the most power with 24:1 mix ratio. So the fact that your engine feels stronger with a slightly heavier mix, makes sense.

Also, Dominator is known for being “crisp” to tune - more predictable, less chasing the screws. Which is why a lot of the builders like it as well. As a logger, I run all my saws 32:1 on it, and they love it. Throttle response is crisp, they make great power, and I haven’t worn a saw out yet. Still running the same 661cm I bought new in 2015 - which was ported 2 years ago by Scott Kunz, and he reused the piston - said everything looked great inside.

 

[PissRev]

do you guys think enviromental factors come into play, like humidity, temperature, mixed with altitude air density. would that have an impact on oil performance in different regions-climates?

I've been running 40:1 dominator since I started reading this thread a few years ago, I can notice an increase in power over my old mix of husky oil at 50:1, but its got me wondering if maybe the fuels and climates favor that mixture for me here, and someone in a different region might need a completley different recipe.

I think the quality of your gas has more effect on that than anything else.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I think the quality of your gas has more effect on that than anything else.

All the stations up here get from only a couple of tanker trucks so probably never no any difference other than the oil. I’ve also used canned gas and while I’m sure I didn’t make more power the saws ran better with more free acceleration on the Sunoco 92 or 94 canned fuel i bought for 8$ a 110 oz can years ago. Bought all Menards’s had left at the time, I’m sure the running quality was better because of the pure gas without all the added bs to adjust vapor pressure ect. Always try and use up whatever gas I have laying around at season charge.